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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/25 13:42:02
Subject: Imperial Guard Regimental Organization Plausibility
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Hello everyone!
First of all, you guys are probably sick of hearing of my ISHTR. Secondly, I still have more questions about it!
So the 5th Edition IG codex on Page 9 states that superheavy tank regiments "rarely consist of more than a dozen superheavy tanks."
My current regiment has seven companies plus the Regimental Command unit. The vehicles are as follows (some of the models are converted but they're made to look as close to the real thing as possible):
Regimental Command Group:
1 Chimera, 1 Stormsword, a variety of regimental staff including psykers, household bodyguards for Senator Militant Malinenko, and her operations staff and XO. Also includes attached staff such as an Enginseer, Commissar, Primaris Psyker, etc etc.
1st Company (Line)
3 Baneblade tanks
2nd Company (Assault)
3 Stormsword tanks
3rd Company (Line)
3 Baneblade tanks
4th Company (Assault)
3 Stormsword tanks
5th Company (Breakthrough)
3 Stormhammer tanks
6th Company (Tank Destruction)
1 Shadowsword tank destroyer
2 Valdor Tank Hunters
7th Company (Support)
1 Atlas, 1 Trojan, 1 Salamander, and a variety of other support staff such as maintenance engineers, lesser commissars, lesser psykers, etc.
So my question is: Does this TO&E sound plausible? I am not sure in light of the 5e IG codex.
Secondly, what more should I add to the support company? Superheavy regiments probably don't have much (if any) integral infantry, and my regimental commander is paranoid and centralized enough that she'd keep most infantry under a very short leash. Scout units usually are seconded from reconaissance regiments rather than directly integral to other regiments, right? And I have a squadron of Hydras I've been debating attaching to the support company of the Regiment. I can understand if they'd adopt the paint scheme, but should I develop a different numbering scheme (and commander, etc) and whatnot for them since they'd be seconded from an Air Defense Regiment, even if on a permanent basis? Or do you think it's probably fine for a regiment to have its own IADS in the 41st Millenium?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/25 15:26:17
Subject: Imperial Guard Regimental Organization Plausibility
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Seems plausible to me.
An outlier, sure, but the galaxy is a big place and I would certainly bet large regiments like this would exist in regions that are significantly wealthy/of strategic importance.
For support, I'd probably be looking for auxiliary units outside of the regiment itself. Combined arms forces are common throughout the Imperium and also often are necessary, the way power tends to be divided up between military bodies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/25 15:36:08
Subject: Imperial Guard Regimental Organization Plausibility
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Kawauso wrote:Seems plausible to me.
An outlier, sure, but the galaxy is a big place and I would certainly bet large regiments like this would exist in regions that are significantly wealthy/of strategic importance.
For support, I'd probably be looking for auxiliary units outside of the regiment itself. Combined arms forces are common throughout the Imperium and also often are necessary, the way power tends to be divided up between military bodies.
Yeah, the only problem is I want to own the TO&E of one regiment, not a smattering of units from a variety of regiments (though I recognize that realistically they'd all be traveling together in an army group or at least battle group anyways) but as far as model ownership goes... hm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/25 18:12:37
Subject: Imperial Guard Regimental Organization Plausibility
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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When in doubt, "a close connection to the AdMech" is always a good go-to answer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/25 22:33:25
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard Regimental Organization Plausibility
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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They are your dudes, it's your fluff.
I guess your super heavy tank regiment is one of those rare ones that include more than a dozen super heavy tanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/30 02:15:56
Subject: Imperial Guard Regimental Organization Plausibility
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
In Warp Transit to next battlefield location, Destination Unknown
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For my 2 cents worth, you have 2 Battalions worth of Super Heavies. I would say that you need at least 10 companies of 3 Super Heavies in each company, to qualify for a Super Heavy Regiment. Other than that, no reason why you could not make it a mixed Regiment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/30 03:38:45
Subject: Imperial Guard Regimental Organization Plausibility
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That's kind of the dilemma I'm having though!
I want more tanks, and more fluff, and more awesome, but the IG codexes have repeatedly stated that more than a dozen superheavies per regiment is rare, and I've already got 19...
this means of course that 30 vehicles is probably "legendary regiment" status, since thats more than double what the average superheavy regiment has, and the average superheavy regiment itself is like a black swan in the Imperial Guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/30 20:07:34
Subject: Imperial Guard Regimental Organization Plausibility
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Wing Commander
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Unit1126PLL wrote:That's kind of the dilemma I'm having though!
I want more tanks, and more fluff, and more awesome, but the IG codexes have repeatedly stated that more than a dozen superheavies per regiment is rare, and I've already got 19...
this means of course that 30 vehicles is probably "legendary regiment" status, since thats more than double what the average superheavy regiment has, and the average superheavy regiment itself is like a black swan in the Imperial Guard.
Also, depending on how much "realism" you wanted to represent, the on-paper strength of regiments rarely match up to the actual fighting strength in the field (or in this case on the table). Unless they're freshly raised and brand spanking new, losses, replacements and alterations from previously fought campaigns will leave a regiment irregular in shape and size. I would guess, with something as ancient and rare as superheavy tanks, this is even more so the case, with regiments made up of less-than-optimal and under-strength components. Maybe some slots are substituted with non superheavies and/or older, weaker models? Maybe a troop or two is only two tanks instead of three? Things of that nature.
Maybe I'm not up on all the latest 40K/ IG lore, but I'd assume that whole superheavy regiments are almost unheard/seen of in the 41st Mil, especially at full operational strength. It's your fluff, however, so you can do what you like, of course!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/02 10:04:02
Subject: Imperial Guard Regimental Organization Plausibility
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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Uh… why can’t you just have two regiments?
Especially as the average “super heavy tank regiment” is more of a notional organisational deal than an actual unit in-being. Remember that the typical super-heavy deployment is by tank, or occasionally by company, as an auxiliary to more conventional forces. To actually see a super-heavy regiment deployed as a single entity on the field is not something that happens unless Titan scale opposition is expected.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/02 10:05:41
Subject: Imperial Guard Regimental Organization Plausibility
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Mr_Rose wrote:Uh… why can’t you just have two regiments?
Especially as the average “super heavy tank regiment” is more of a notional organisational deal than an actual unit in-being. Remember that the typical super-heavy deployment is by tank, or occasionally by company, as an auxiliary to more conventional forces. To actually see a super-heavy regiment deployed as a single entity on the field is not something that happens unless Titan scale opposition is expected.
I would support this.
Have two regiments, a brother and sister regiment, so to speak?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/02 11:50:32
Subject: Imperial Guard Regimental Organization Plausibility
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I could put together an infantry regiment, I suppose - in fact that sounds quite awesome.
Any thoughts on what it should be perhaps?
I was thinking heavy shock infantry ( pls carapace vets) but am open to other thoughts!
As for nominal vs actual strength... yes, you are right. And in fact it is happening anyways, with two vehicles from First Company at my parent's house instead of mine, one more from 4th company down for repairs after a disastrous toppling, etc.
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