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The datasheet for Buzzgob states that he can use a kustom force field but, the the wargear options say "none." Can he take a KFF? Does he have to pay for it?

Klak wrote:
The datasheet for Buzzgob states that he can use a kustom force field but, the the wargear options say "none." Can he take a KFF? Does he have to pay for it?

Check the Datasheet again Buzzgob Kustom force Field it's an Ability not Wargear. So he always have it up and no doesn't pay for it.

The problem is the wording of that ability...

If this model is equipped with a kustom force field...

Lord Perversor wrote:

Klak wrote:
The datasheet for Buzzgob states that he can use a kustom force field but, the the wargear options say "none." Can he take a KFF? Does he have to pay for it?

Check the Datasheet again Buzzgob Kustom force Field it's an Ability not Wargear. So he always have it up and no doesn't pay for it.

Wrong on both counts. The KFF ability starts with 'IF this model is equipped with a Kustom Force Field...' but there is no description of how to equip the model with a KFF.

Second, even if it were just an ability that he had, you'd still have to pay points for it, as clarified by the SM Combat Shield FAQ answer (which says it applies to all abilities that are equipment that have a points cost).

The real answer is: it desperately needs an errata so we know what the heck we should be paying for this model.

Thanks for the answers. I kinda figured it would be "nobody knows." I think based on normal Big Mek with KFF costing the same amount as Buzzgob(and buzz having better stats and the extra grot), the intention is that he can take it but has to pay for it.

*FACE-PALMS*
I would have expected (Includes weapons or War-gears) in the point cost for this Model, being a named Model, but I guess that would have been too convenient.
More evidence that the Orks get held down and kicked in the gills, that Forgeworld makes them calculate their own named Models costs....


No, actually, it really is quite pethetic:
There are four names in that box, three which can be found in one Unit Datasheet (Buzz's) and one that is found in their own Datasheet
Both Datasheet have 'War-gear options: None....' These Units are always going to cost the same, aren't they?
So why the (does NOT include...) when it literally would solve problems like this one?

Can it just be a typo, or would that make this Model too cheap?

 JinxDragon wrote:
*FACE-PALMS*
I would have expected (Includes weapons or War-gears) in the point cost for this Model, being a named Model, but I guess that would have been too convenient.
More evidence that the Orks get held down and kicked in the gills, that Forgeworld makes them calculate their own named Models costs....


No, actually, it really is quite pethetic:
There are four names in that box, three which can be found in one Unit Datasheet (Buzz's) and one that is found in their own Datasheet
Both Datasheet have 'War-gear options: None....' These Units are always going to cost the same, aren't they?
So why the (does NOT include...) when it literally would solve problems like this one?

Can it just be a typo, or would that make this Model too cheap?

Idk why you think this is evidence of anything Forgeworld has against Orks. All of the Index books from Forgeworld do the same thing for all factions. It would be nice and easy if they just made it all-inclusive, but it's nothing against Orks.

In the same book Necrons and Drukhari have (including War-gear) after their named Unique Models
Tryanids and T'au have (Does NOT include War-gear) after their Unique Named Models but these same Models also have War-gear options that would change the point cost
Asuryani have their unique Named Units bundled in with their mundane Units, so have multiple Models on this list with war-gear options that would change the point cost

So again I ask:
With no War-gear options to change the cost of these Named Unique Models, why have (Does NOT include War-gear) after these unique named Models?
-- And I again wonder if this Model is really overpriced if it gets a free Big Choppa?
And... while we are at it... why are Asuryan unique named Models tossed in with their general troops?
-- I know formatting, ultimately, does not matter but someone had to have decided not to give them a box... why doesn't Irillyth get a box? Is she not good enough for a box?!

 JinxDragon wrote:
In the same book Necrons and Drukhari have (including War-gear) after their named Unique Models

What named unique models do the Drukhari have? I do now see that Necrons get some points included in their named models.
Tryanids and T'au have (Does NOT include War-gear) after their Unique Named Models but these same Models also have War-gear options that would change the point cost

Orks aren't being unfairly singled out by Forgeworld. They're being kicked in the gills by all of Citadel. You pay up to two times the price for all wargear that lines up in every way with generic space marine gear. Gear and models having half the amount of shots, worse performance, lower saves, and the worst ballistic skill..all for way more points than they are worth.

However the rules here in question about the KFF and Buzzgob are a Forgeworld issue that would need clarification. Problem being..they've yet to go through and fix the issues with the other books that have even more pressing errors. I'm not sure I would hold my breath waiting for clarification..

Jacksmiles,
I made a mistake referring to some of these Models as Unique, happens, but how does that prove false that the Drukhari models listed have (includes War-gear) when I was informed Forgeworld never does that?
Why does including one or two Models with no war-gear options in a list of Unique Models for T'au, which still includes models that do have modifiers, make the argument null and void?

Frankly, if you ask me, I am with Mmzero252 on this matter - The whole Citadel line loves to line up and kick the orks in whatever part of their fungoid bodies are showing, but they really love those damn Gills. The only reason I said 'Forgeworld' at all in my original post was due to the fact we where discussing a Forgeworld Model at the time... it could have easily been a comment about Game Workshop's side of things. Given the Ork bashing that we love to joke about, goddess help us if the Codex is actually good, It was a perfect excuse.

Far more likely reason as to why it reads (does Not include Wargear) is because Buzz is meant to have Wargear options....
But that just proves they don't care enough about Orks to give them a working Model, before kicking it in the Gills!

To be fair, they also released the Renegades with commanders that weren't characters and chimeras they couldn't even get in. Not shocking at all right now that Forgeworld rules are hot garbage.

I really needed a laugh before bed, thank you very much.
I knew I returned to debating this game for a reason....