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Hi everybody!

Made my first list of Tyranids and want to know your opinions. The list is 2 detachments, 1 battalion and 1 Spearhead (3+3+1=7 CP)

BATTALION D.
HQ
Malenthrope x2 - 180
Grasping tail
Swarmlord - 300
Bone Sabres, Prehensile tail
Tyranid Prime - 113
AG, Boneswords, Deathspitters

Troops
Termagaunts x10 - 40
Fleshborers
Termagaunts x10 - 40
Fleshborers
Tyranid Warriors x4 - 124
AG, 3 with Boneswords, Deathspitters and 1 with Devourer and ST (because of points)

Fast Attack
Harpy - 162
2x Heavy Venom cannon + the usual
Harpy - 162
2x Heavy Venom cannon + the usual

Dedicated Transport
Tyrannocyte - 143
5x Venom cannon

SPEARHEAD D.
HQ
Hive Tyrant - 212
2x MST, Prehensile tail, Wings
Hive Tyrant - 205
Heavy venom cannon, MST, Prehensile tail

Heavy Support
Biovores x3 - 108
Spore Mine Launcher
Mawloc - 105
Mawloc - 105

Total pts: 1999

Alot of drops unfortunately... Took the walking Hive Tyrant because of my current setup in models.

Give me some advice on on the list, how to play it and what to change!

Looks like you've stretched your model pool too thin - suggest you play 1,500 pts first and work up to 2k when you have a wider model pool. Also a stretch to get that 7th CP - difference between 6 and 7 is really not much game-wise ...

You have a swarmlord and walking tyrant and no tyrant guard, not sure on the point of either in this list to be honest. Same for Prime - not enough warriors in the list to make his boost worth it's points. On harpies I prefer the stranglethorn over the venom.

Sorry if that sounds a little negative ...

1. The model-pool: Have a lot more models, so I can change the list alot. Have around 3000-4000 pts worth of models.
2. The Swarmlord will go into the tyrannocyte, and with the hive commander - ability he will get 1-turn charge. So Tyrant Guard is useless for him. But I agree that the walking tyrant is a misfit... what to do?
3. Why the stranglethorn instead of the venom?
4. Negative!? Not at all, thats why I posted this

Maybe switch the walking hive tyrant for a trygon and drop the warriors in it... The prime goes in to the bin and a tervigon (if there's points...)

Swarmlord and delivery system is over 400 points - this is not going to earn it's points back. It will charge a unit first turn (and not necessarily the one you want if they bubble wrap) and then likely die before it gets to do it again as it's the only model in their deployment zone. You may be better dropping him in T2 with the mawlocs when the rest of the army has advanced to mid-table and they have to spread their shooting, but Swarmlord likes company and is too expensive for a solo model. Still, the walking tyrant then seems a little out of place.

Harpies I like the D6 shots and guaranteed 2 damage over the slightly higher strength to be honest. You can always burn a CP if you roll a 1 ...

If you drop the prime and the tyrant you can maybe afford 6 hive guard, which would appear points better spent.

About swarmy, that's is so true!

Hive Guard is really good... maybe something to consider.

Thank you so much for the respons!

NackaNid wrote:

3. Why the stranglethorn instead of the venom?

The problem with Venom Cannons is they are high strength, sure, but low AP (same AP has the STC). I prefer the 1 less strength but guaranteed 2 damage and potential for my shots (D6 vs D3)

Also Strangles get a bonus vs large units...like bubble wrap. Maybe you can have the Swarm Lord HC himself, then pod in the Tyrant Guard? With so many drops you should just plan on going second, and be pleasantly suprised when you go first.

If you have a wide range of models, I'd say starting with a Trygon, and 20 Stealers is a good way to go.

Good luck! And good hunting!

Oh my... I'm such a noob... Looked at the ordinary Barbed strangler thorn, not the cannon. Totally agree that the B-cannos is much better then the venom.

Yeah, the genestealers... They are crazy good this edition. Killed a Knight in 2 turns with 15 genestealers last weekend, a bit lucky yes, but the potential with genestealers is amazing!

Did some changes to the list, feels like a good first "try-out-list". Added genestealers and a brood lord for the buff and more psychic. A trygon (warriors in the tunnel) and took away the prime.
Gonna try it out and see how it plays. Totally 10 drops, is that a a lot for 2000? The units are so cheap and with no real transports is very hard to protect the characters without bubblewraping. With the Malanthrope ability and the bivores "I'm-gonna-f**-your-movement-up"-shooting it might work out.

I've played with Mawlocs in a tournament and they really are not worth the points, doing max 3 mortal wounds when appearing, and then they get soaked with oncoming fire