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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/01 05:48:52
Subject: Teleport strike and heavy weapons
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Perfect Shot Ultramarine Predator Pilot
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Hello all!
Do terminators shoot their heavy weapons with a -1 penalty the turn in which they arrive on the board due to teleport strike (counting as having moved)?
Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/01 08:10:31
Subject: Teleport strike and heavy weapons
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/01 08:27:04
Subject: Re:Teleport strike and heavy weapons
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Perfect Shot Ultramarine Predator Pilot
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Thanks for the reply, but how is this justified by the rules? In teleport strike it reads" are set up on thebattlefield "
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/01 08:47:49
Subject: Teleport strike and heavy weapons
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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I asked this very question at the GW shop yesterday during a game. Their opinion was there was no -1 to hit for heavy.
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If you ever play with "that guy" remember this :
"there may be times when you are not sure exactly how to resolve a situation that has come up during play. When this happens, have a quick chat with your opponent and apply the solution that makes the most sense to both of you (or seems the most fun!), If no single solution presents itself, you and your opponent should roll off, and whoever rolls the highest gets to choose what happens." BRB pg 180 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/01 09:33:20
Subject: Re:Teleport strike and heavy weapons
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Core rules, pg.3, right side, reinforcements.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/01 09:37:45
Subject: Re:Teleport strike and heavy weapons
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Perfect Shot Ultramarine Predator Pilot
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Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/01 10:12:13
Subject: Re:Teleport strike and heavy weapons
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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It states "Units that arrive as reinforcements count as having moved in their movement phase for all rule purposes, such as shooting Heavy Weapons"
So reading that, it certinaly should be -1 for heavy on a Terminator, as the previous replies state.
I guess I shall have to tell my local GW Automatically Appended Next Post: p.s. in my defence, I argued for it being -1
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/09/01 10:21:25
If you ever play with "that guy" remember this :
"there may be times when you are not sure exactly how to resolve a situation that has come up during play. When this happens, have a quick chat with your opponent and apply the solution that makes the most sense to both of you (or seems the most fun!), If no single solution presents itself, you and your opponent should roll off, and whoever rolls the highest gets to choose what happens." BRB pg 180 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/01 16:54:03
Subject: Teleport strike and heavy weapons
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Note the recent GK faq answer, which also clarified that, even though the models don't move and nothing says they count as having moved, Gate of Infinity has made them move.
I think the RAI is basically, "If a model's position on the table changes in the Move or Psychic phase, then it counts as having moved in the Shooting Phase."
That's the RAI I got from that curious faq, and I think if it can convince me it can convince a lot of other stubborn people as well
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/01 17:51:12
Subject: Teleport strike and heavy weapons
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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Elric Greywolf wrote:Note the recent GK faq answer, which also clarified that, even though the models don't move and nothing says they count as having moved, Gate of Infinity has made them move.
I think the RAI is basically, "If a model's position on the table changes in the Move or Psychic phase, then it counts as having moved in the Shooting Phase."
That's the RAI I got from that curious faq, and I think if it can convince me it can convince a lot of other stubborn people as well 
I think the only exception would be for units that can disembark from their transports mid-move, like from Valkyries.
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