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Chaos



Exalted Champion and Dark Apostle in a Rhino with Berzerkers, another Rhino right behind with 10 Berzerkers as backup. Disc Sorcerer slingshots the first Rhino up with Warptime and hopefully the first Rhino squad can get a charge off by turn 2, followed by the second Rhino squad in turn 3. Exalted Champion with the Murder Sword to go character hunting, especially useful against armies that are reliant on a specific character as a lynchpin to their army. Being a WE means he gets an extra attack and with Diabolic Strength and the +1 attack Warlord trait, he can reasonably get off enough attacks to kill a 6 wound character in a single round of fighting just from successful hits, especially considering he hits on a 2+ and can reroll failed hits near a Dark Apostle.

Terminators and Terminator Sorcerer deep strike in turn 2, Terminator Sorcerer casts Delightful Agonies and Warptime on the Terrminators while the Disc Sorcerer casts Prescience on them. Activate Endless Cacophony and pretty much anything the Terminators shoot at is dead, followed by a near guaranteed charge due to closing the distance with Warptime. Icon of Excess + Prescience means DTTFE activates on a 4+ and along with the Daemon Prince hopefully nearby, they'll be attacking with Power Fists on 3+ rerolling 1's with 4's generating an extra attack. CSM are off securing objectives while the Berzerker blob hunts around for enemies. Only thing I don't like about this list is that the Rhinos are going to be very vulnerable while they're going up the table so I'll need to be smart with maneuvering them.

Considering switching Alpha Legion for Renegades if the -1 to hit isn't useful for units that want to be in CC/short range, and also maybe using a Slaanehi Daemon Prince with Intoxicating Elixir if The Murder Sword isn't as good as it seems, might need an opinion on that.


Tyranids



A balanced approach. Turn 1 Mawloc pops up in the enemy backfield to cause some mortal wounds and they either focus fire it down (meaning they don't fire on any of my other units with their heavy weapons) or they ignore it and it's free to charge their important character or scary shooting unit next turn. Meanwhile the Broodlord advances with two squads of Stealers with the Flyrant as support. Broodlord casts Catalyst on the Stealers to give them some durability while the Flyrant casts The Horror on the enemy unit most likely to mulch them (Twin Assault Cannon Razorbacks for example). Exocrines provide solid firing support in the meantime with Warrior providing Synapse and some protection against deep strikers. Rippers for objective stealing/overwatch eating. Only real issue I have with this list is that there's only a single lane for attacking, but hopefully the combination of the Mawloc distraction, Exocrine fire, and the number of Stealers is enough for them to still be a major threat once they reach enemy lines.

Both lists seem interesting but I'm pretty torn as to which seems more viable. Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated!

I play Nids so I'm partial. That second list looks good, but I'd recomend finding a way to put a Trygon in there to tunnel one of your Broods in, it lowers your drops, and adds pressure on the foe.

Good luck! And good hunting!

Thanks for the advice! I might have to give up an Exocrine to make a Trygon work but overall I'm not sure I'm keen on alpha strikes that rely on making a 9" charge, it just seems kind of unreliable, even with CP rerolls. Still worth considering though.

I made a pure Alpha Legion list that is a little more balanced than the previous Chaos list:



Switched out the Sorcerer on the Disk of Tzeentch for a Jump Pack Sorcerer since they have the same movement plus I can make him a Nurgle Sorcerer, which lets me cast Miasma of Pestilence on the Rhino/Heldrake to make it hard to hit as it moves up the board since they're not affected by the Alpha Legion trait (could even cast it on the Helbrute to make it -2 to hit!). Added a CC Helbrute for extra AT and a hard to hit Helbrute marching towards your face offers a pretty scary target to divert attention from the Rhino. Went with the Slaaneshi Daemon Prince this time for variety although the Murder Sword Exalted Champion idea is still on the table depending on the matchup. Also added a Heldrake to provide distraction and harassment for a turn or 2 as my forces go up the board, as well as lending a hand to the Daemon Prince against any flyers on the table. When the Terminators drop in I'll have my Jump Pack Sorcerer near (hopefully) to cast Warptime on them and still do the previous strategy.

Overall, I traded 2 CP, troops, and less Berzerkers for a Helbrute and a Heldrake as well as making nearly my whole army hard to hit. The lack of troops in this list does worry me a little bit but hopefully what I have is enough to take out my opponent's troops. Is it worth the tradeoff? Which Chaos list seems better?

Mr. Funktastic wrote:
Thanks for the advice! I might have to give up an Exocrine to make a Trygon work but overall I'm not sure I'm keen on alpha strikes that rely on making a 9" charge, it just seems kind of unreliable, even with CP rerolls. Still worth considering though.

I made a pure Alpha Legion list that is a little more balanced than the previous Chaos list:

Spoiler:

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [54 PL, 1026pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Alpha Legion

+ HQ +

Dark Apostle [5 PL, 76pts]: Bolt pistol, Mark of Khorne, Power maul

Exalted Champion [5 PL, 81pts]: Mark of Khorne, Plasma pistol, Power sword

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [14 PL, 300pts]: Icon of Excess, Mark of Slaanesh
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power fist

Helbrute [7 PL, 155pts]: Helbrute fist, Mark of Nurgle, Power scourge

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 157pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power fist
. 7x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 7x Chainaxe

+ Flyer +

Heldrake [10 PL, 185pts]: Baleflamer, Heldrake claws, Mark of Nurgle

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 72pts]: Combi-bolter, Mark of Nurgle

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [24 PL, 473pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Alpha Legion

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 180pts]: Intoxicating Elixir, Malefic talon
. Slaanesh: Diabolic Strength

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour [8 PL, 167pts]: Combi-plasma, Delightful Agonies, Force sword, Mark of Slaanesh, Prescience

Sorcerer with Jump Pack [7 PL, 126pts]: Bolt pistol, Force sword, Mark of Nurgle, Miasma of Pestilence, Warptime

++ Total: [78 PL, 1499pts] ++

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Switched out the Sorcerer on the Disk of Tzeentch for a Jump Pack Sorcerer since they have the same movement plus I can make him a Nurgle Sorcerer, which lets me cast Miasma of Pestilence on the Rhino/Heldrake to make it hard to hit as it moves up the board since they're not affected by the Alpha Legion trait (could even cast it on the Helbrute to make it -2 to hit!). Added a CC Helbrute for extra AT and a hard to hit Helbrute marching towards your face offers a pretty scary target to divert attention from the Rhino. Went with the Slaaneshi Daemon Prince this time for variety although the Murder Sword Exalted Champion idea is still on the table depending on the matchup. Also added a Heldrake to provide distraction and harassment for a turn or 2 as my forces go up the board, as well as lending a hand to the Daemon Prince against any flyers on the table. When the Terminators drop in I'll have my Jump Pack Sorcerer near (hopefully) to cast Warptime on them and still do the previous strategy.

Overall, I traded 2 CP, troops, and less Berzerkers for a Helbrute and a Heldrake as well as making nearly my whole army hard to hit. The lack of troops in this list does worry me a little bit but hopefully what I have is enough to take out my opponent's troops. Is it worth the tradeoff? Which Chaos list seems better?

Yeah, The "Thing" about a Trygon Tunnel fuii of Nids is Not that you can "Alpha charge", its that you Can "Alpha charge". It puts pressure on the foe, he needs to set up with that in mind. You might not pop the trygon till T3, if that is how the game flows.


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Hmm, if'n you're Alpha Legion can't you use a Strategem to infiltrate your Berzerks up? That might let you add more bodies...