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Can grey knights cast gate of infinity on a land raider they are inside?

Can you cast smite from inside a landraider?

Reread the section on Transports in the rulebook. You'll see that it says units in transports can't normally do anything or be affected in any way while embarked. That includes psykers. So, no, you can do neither of those things while in a Land Raider.

I just like laughing at some of the unrealistic things it causes when you mix in one of the Open Topped rules:
Sure, that Character can fire but he can't use his Aura ability to buff his own shots....


It makes sense why the Authors would go for a 'Restrict Everything' ruling when it came to Transports, as Rule-interactions between Embarked Units and the rest of the Battlefield where... dark and filled with terror. They have been making this move for multiple editions as well, with the whole thing settled in a Frequently Asked Question answer sometime prior to this Edition, so a 'more simple Edition' is going to embrace it as well. Now it is very simple, unless the Unit is on the battlefield or has a Rule specifically allowing the Embarked Unit to interact Battlefield... that Unit isn't doing squat.

Might or might not even vanish at the end of turn 3, during Matched Play... we are not entirely sure.

 JinxDragon wrote:
I just like laughing at some of the unrealistic things it causes when you mix in one of the Open Topped rules:
Sure, that Character can fire but he can't use his Aura ability to buff his own shots....


It makes sense why the Authors would go for a 'Restrict Everything' ruling when it came to Transports, as Rule-interactions between Embarked Units and the rest of the Battlefield where... dark and filled with terror. They have been making this move for multiple editions as well, with the whole thing settled in a Frequently Asked Question answer sometime prior to this Edition, so a 'more simple Edition' is going to embrace it as well. Now it is very simple, unless the Unit is on the battlefield or has a Rule specifically allowing the Embarked Unit to interact Battlefield... that Unit isn't doing squat.

Might or might not even vanish at the end of turn 3, during Matched Play... we are not entirely sure.

models embarked aren't in reserver, so they don't vanish after turn 3

terry wrote:

 JinxDragon wrote:
I just like laughing at some of the unrealistic things it causes when you mix in one of the Open Topped rules:
Sure, that Character can fire but he can't use his Aura ability to buff his own shots....


It makes sense why the Authors would go for a 'Restrict Everything' ruling when it came to Transports, as Rule-interactions between Embarked Units and the rest of the Battlefield where... dark and filled with terror. They have been making this move for multiple editions as well, with the whole thing settled in a Frequently Asked Question answer sometime prior to this Edition, so a 'more simple Edition' is going to embrace it as well. Now it is very simple, unless the Unit is on the battlefield or has a Rule specifically allowing the Embarked Unit to interact Battlefield... that Unit isn't doing squat.

Might or might not even vanish at the end of turn 3, during Matched Play... we are not entirely sure.

models embarked aren't in reserver, so they don't vanish after turn 3

The last bit from the tactical reserves section mentions units "not arrived on the battlefield by the end of the 3rd battle round", without mentioning explicitly that it refers to units that start the game in reserve.
Some argue that units that are deployed and remain in their transport for the first 3 rounds never arrived on the battlefield, as units in transports do not count as being on the battlefield.

fresus wrote:

terry wrote:

 JinxDragon wrote:
I just like laughing at some of the unrealistic things it causes when you mix in one of the Open Topped rules:
Sure, that Character can fire but he can't use his Aura ability to buff his own shots....


It makes sense why the Authors would go for a 'Restrict Everything' ruling when it came to Transports, as Rule-interactions between Embarked Units and the rest of the Battlefield where... dark and filled with terror. They have been making this move for multiple editions as well, with the whole thing settled in a Frequently Asked Question answer sometime prior to this Edition, so a 'more simple Edition' is going to embrace it as well. Now it is very simple, unless the Unit is on the battlefield or has a Rule specifically allowing the Embarked Unit to interact Battlefield... that Unit isn't doing squat.

Might or might not even vanish at the end of turn 3, during Matched Play... we are not entirely sure.

models embarked aren't in reserver, so they don't vanish after turn 3

The last bit from the tactical reserves section mentions units "not arrived on the battlefield by the end of the 3rd battle round", without mentioning explicitly that it refers to units that start the game in reserve.
Some argue that units that are deployed and remain in their transport for the first 3 rounds never arrived on the battlefield, as units in transports do not count as being on the battlefield.

That is a seriously dick argument. A section devoted specifically to restrictions on reserves in matched play is not going to have any effect on models embarked in transports that aren't already in reserve as well.

It's clearly not intended to apply to transported models, but some people think they're clever. Go figure.

I bring it up just to laugh at it, it is only one of several clearly unintended consequences of 'not being on the battlefield.'