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I've got about 16 AoS Kairic Acolytes leftover from a project, and was thinking of using them for some Cultists for my Thousand Sons. In AoS, they'd come equipped with stock swords and shields, so I'm tempted to stick with that and say they have "Brutal Close-Combat Weapons," but I can easily bash together some Autogun looking things. What do you think would work best if I'm bringing Ahriman, Rubrics, and some Scarab Occult Terminators?

I always use at least one blob of my Cultists to "teleport" into my opponents backfield with the Tide of Traitors stratagem. While I generally wait a turn or so to do this (so my opponent can waste some fire at the Cultists who are sprinting up the board) when they arrive again their goal is to charge tanks or other strong shooting units so that they will be unable to fire again until they deal with the Cultists in assault. For this reason I'd go brutal close combat weapons for the extra close combat attacks. Who knows, you might even kill something with them.

Cultists not only are great for tie up pieces, but they also have incredible value with Thousand Sons when used for actual combat as well. Using your psykers to boost their chance to hit and with the Tzeech specific psyker power, you can hilariously enough give them a 5++ save, making them much harder to kill. With the rule of 6s always succeeding, a blob of 40 empowered by a Psyker can be devestating.

And as greenterror talked about, you can refresh that blob with the tide strategem. With a few CP focused on it, you could easily turn your pitiful 40 cultist blob into a 100+ wound unit with 5 invuln and 3 BS. For give or take 250 points (Sorcerer included)

I usually play Iron Warriors, but now that I read what vaklor4 said I am going to have to give 5++ respawning Cultists who hit on 3+ a try!

So I'm assuming based on the responses that, when people take Cultists in a Thousand Sons list, they tend to equip them with Brutal Close Combat Weapons rather than Autoguns?

Thousand Sons can't use Tide of Traitors, we're excluded from everything in the CSM Codex other than points values.

Just give your Cultists mark of Tzeetch and your Chaos Sorcerer Mark of Tzeetch and then your have "Thousand Sons". Chaos Sorcerer can then take the power to give them a 5++ and since the Cultists have Mark of Tzeetch they can benefit from the power.

This wasn't taking Thousand Sons, this is just taking Tzeech. Also, it's a toss up. 4 point guys with 2 attacks, or 4 points for guys with good range?They're both good, but not to be mixed. Thousand Sons just benefit from Autoguns, while Khorne benefit from Brutal Assault Weapons.

 vaklor4 wrote:
With the rule of 6s always succeeding

Is this a Tzeentch thing? And on what does 6 always succeeds. Sorry, unfamiliar with this rule.

Cultists? Don't you mean Prosperine Acothralls(tm)?

I do "Black Legion".

Stick Abaddon with Rubrics giving them rerolls to hit. Toss VotLW on them for around 10 AP2 wounds on anything T5 through T7.
Send the sorcerer with the cultists or the scarabs for the usual tricks.

I may have a real hard time letting Abaddon go when the book hits.


**BATTALION DETACHMENT** HQ 240 Abaddon (+2 CP) 158 Sorcerer in Terminator Armor, Tzeentch, Combi Bolter, Force Axe TROOP 94 CSM 65 - 5x CSM, Pistol/Chainsword 12 - Powerfist 17 - Meltagun 102 CSM 65 - 5x CSM 12 - Powerfist 25 - Missile Launcher 142 Cultists, Tzeentch 120 - 30x Cultists 0 - Shotgun 0 - 8x Autogun 4 - 1x Heavy Stubber 18 - 2x Flamer ELITE 212 Rubric Marines 162 - 9x Rubric Marines 14 - Force Staff 7 - Warpflame pistol 15 - Soulreaper Cannon 14 - 7x Inferno Boltgun FLYER 185 Heldrake 138 - Heldrake 30 - Baleflamer 17 - Heldrake Claws HEAVY 177 Forgefiend 119 - Forgefiend 8 - Daemon Jaws 50 - 2x Hades Autocannon 189 Predator 90 - Predator 49 - Predator AC 50 - 2x Lascannon **AUXILIARY DETACHMENT (-1CP)** 244 Scarab Occult Terminators 165 5x Terminators 14 Force Staff 15 Soulreaper Cannon 22 Hellfyre 16 4x Power Sword 12 4x Inferno Combi-bolter

For wounds, if you roll a 6, you get the roll. There is never an impossible roll.

When wounding yes 6's always wound, but you can get negatives applied in special ways making it impossible to hit something.

Example would be a unit with a heavy weapon with a bs of 5+, when they move that becomes 6+ then the target has a modifier to shooting, like that nurgle power, making it a 7+ to hit, or an auto miss since 7+ is impossible on d6.

Just being clear here.

 vaklor4 wrote:
For wounds, if you roll a 6, you get the roll. There is never an impossible roll.

Might be right for wounds, but you can definitely get impossible rolls for hits which can then end up meaning zero hits, and so wounds rolls become irrelevant (and non-existant)

Where is the 6s always succeed for wounds rule? I can't find it.