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Followed Conquest for some time now, and love the whole setting, artwork and general feel. It's all quite grim and brutal, just how I like it.

But the game itself is not super convincing (mostly due to myself not wanting to get into yet another mass battle system) and the models scale prevented me from throwing my money, for now (I tend to like compatibility accross different systems).

However, the lore and artwork are fantastic, so I was wondering... Will there be any printed book containing a mass amount of lore, art, world-building info, etc? More stuff besides the gaming aspect? I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
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Looks like they are making some very cool looking t-shirts! I'll take a 100 Kingdoms one, please

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Also, the army builder is really neat. Quality stuff.
The only thing that is somewhat annoying when making army lists for Conquest are the Mainstay/Restricted options tied to certain heroes. Particularly, when a unit is only available as restricted to a single hero. Or a hero only having access to one type of unit, nothing else. It really forces you to build a force in a certain direction if you want to include something in particular. The starter set for the 100K is not even legal! And I don't want to get an imperial officer just for the crossbows....
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Of course, fluff over soup is always better

BUT I really think a minimum flexibility for some choices should be allowed to not make it that restricted, which could probably be done without compromising the fluff. Sure a Priest will never have some Order units in his warband, for example, that is quite logical. There are however more "general" units that don't have a strong affiliation like the mercenary crossbowmen (as per available fluff). Wouldn't a noble lord employ them if he considers them useful?

So, I simply think that between complete soup and very restrictive choices, there could be a middle spot
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Can't wait for all the goodness to unfold. Looks so good! Tough choice...
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7000+ kilometers is a bit too far. Otherwise I'd go!

I would have chosen 1000-1500 point armies. It's the first "official tournament" and the troop variety is still a bit low to go for 2k armies...

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The poor guy that wants to play Nords with only 2 characters, 2 troops and the Jotnar available

"I'll take 4 of each...".

1000 points for the tournament would be reasonable, and probably even better to promote the game as having larger armies all duplicating units and looking the same isn't great both in terms of gameplay and aesthetic.
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 stonehorse wrote:
Out of curiosity just had a look at what is currently available for this game, as I am always looking for nice plastic fantasy kits. All I can say is: I don't think this game will survive... those prices are absolutely disgusting. 12 plastic Dwarfs for €39. Not even GW dare charge that for so little.


If you check the current dwarf miniatures from the aos range, you have 10 minis for 40 or 45€ (arkanauts, vulkites). I think the Conquest miniatures are on the higher end of the spectrum regarding price (no discussion there) but when comparing to other companies, doing so with GW is never a good idea.

Also important to note: Conquest minis have a larger scale. Humans often comparable to SCE, for example (and we know how prices work for that....).


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

Then there’s the total lack of a hook in the starter. There was no fluff in the little rule book, not even flavor text. I keep hearing how great the background of this setting is, so why is it not there to lure me in?


The little rule book is suppose to be just that, a print version of the rules available on the web. I guess it is common in starter sets. I e-mailed them about fluff content and plans to release books or whatever, but they said it is far away, if it ever happens.
All the fluff released is online, on their website, videos or pdfs. They explained that the release schedule and fluff introduction follows a specific story arc, they don't want to drop 100 pages of fluff and that's it.
The Nepenthe story(available as pdfs and on videos) shows well the beginnings of the conflict between the 100 Kingdoms and Spire, serving the introduction of the core box release. They did the same for the Dweghom when released.
Putting out fluff for free for everyone to check is something that seems reasonable enough, can't blame them. I also like how it follows a logical chronology within the Ea world, instead of just random piles of fluff. A good way of telling an unfolding story.




For those interested in the game, the Nords army list is available on line (ah, I wish I had to buy a book to have access to it ).
https://www.para-bellum.com/conquest-rules-armylist-faqs/
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Update for the Spires and 100K!!!

Vanguard Clones (+ Infiltrators), Militia (+ Bows) and Preceptor / Veteran

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Look rather awesome, love the infiltrators and the preceptor.

However, I do think it is weird to sell a unit upgrade as (probably) an individual character, I'd think it would be smarter to make a sprue with all the upgrade options instead. The Preceptor could however work as a better looking Assassin or Executor.
It doesn't make much sense when you can just swap a few pieces. The Seasoned Veteran of my men-at-arms is a regular dude with the head + shield of the Household Knights (the extra bits are nice )
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I think the best is yet to come. The concept behind the Orders of the 100K or the Avataras for Spires make them sound like some potentially crazy miniatures. Not to mention big monsters like the Desolation Beast or the Siegebreaker.
The only bad thing is they can't come soon enough
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Definitely buying the book(s).
Not too much into organized play, but if it's a yearly thing (season) I'll look into for the exclusive minis (if nice). The fact there are engaging events is cool though.

Makes sense to add more units to the Theist Priest. Can't even be played otherwise, and lore wise, I'm sure filth illiterate peasants are easily influenced by the Church.
I'm only sad coz this maybe means the Sicarii are far down the queue (and I'm very interested in seeing them!).
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Dropping this here, new Para Bellum website: https://www.para-bellum.com/

Also new eshop, with the new big book and avataras soon to be on preorder: https://eshop.para-bellum.com/

The Companion book seems to be 49$/€, which is more or less what I expected for such thickness. Conversion rate, as usual, is somewhat annoying but since they produce in US at least I can understand it. It's not as bad as other places.
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They are supposed to have plans for "Living World" events, which are sort of global campaigns that have meaningful impact on the background. Maybe that will be their vehicle to implement different campaign systems.
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Awesome artwork! Can't wait for the book, should be packed with art goodness.

For one week (5-12 May), the e-shop has 20% discount (use code NEWESHOP20).
Great deal, though not sure I want to make an order before the newer stuff is released.
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https://www.flipsnack.com/Conquestcatalogue/may-2020/full-view.html

On the link above you can check all the newer stuff that is to be released.
The highborn and herald of fire are siiiick!

Stoked for so many releases!
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Centaur Avatara might be like Trolls, already produced but waiting in the pipeline. Para Bellum seems to have a lot of their products finished since the start but I don't think companies release them immediately once done. That would flood the market, so progressive release lets the customers absorb the shinnies.
A lot of the releases seem to go 1-2 Boxes + character per faction, so Centaurs might just be in the next wave.
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https://eshop.para-bellum.com/10-conquest/s-1/categories_2-new_upcoming

Pre-orders are up!

Looks like we will have Drillmaster + card packs in June and then Highborn + Avataras in July.

Which means the Companion book is going to be released at earliest in August.
With all the other stuff in the pipeline (Fire Dweghoms, Nord captain/huscarls, 100k gilded/hhg, etc....), probably means we have a good picture of what all the releases will be until late in the year.
Wardruhn (I never get the spelling right?)) and Old Dominion probably pushed until very late this year or even next year.
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Yeah, those are from the Beasts of War video. They also showed what appears to be the Order of the Sword.

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Good news, the Companion book is actually up for pre-order! Available June 15.

https://eshop.para-bellum.com/pre-orders/74-conquest-companion-PBW8003.html

NICE
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Nord Jotnar is about 14cm according to the following image: https://images.beastsofwar.com/2019/12/Nord-Scale-Comparison-Conquest.jpg

I think the Mantic one is 18cm? The Jotnar looks much more thicc though.
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Can't go wrong buying the starter set. And at that price, even more!


v1.03 about to drop, exciting week ahead with the new fluff and rules.
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Very cool bit of fluff about the Avataras.

Also, character portrait for the Spires. Another awesome bit of fluff about what is going on in the Underspire:
https://www.para-bellum.com/character-portrait-faded-magenta/
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Boxes have 1 Character, 2 Infantry Regiments, 1 Brute/Cavalry Regiment (except Dweghom which have the character + 3 infantry).

That's about 135-140 bucks, more or less. And they include some bonus in the form of paints, brush, dice.

So a decent discount compared to normal rrp, which becomes quite big one if adding the extra miniaturemarket discount.

I'd get some if I was starting, seems like a very good place to dive in.
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 Theophony wrote:

By the picture of the Dweghom it looks like a Hold Raegh (character), a unit of Hold Ballistae, a unit of dragon Slayers, and probably a unit of Hold warriors. Pretty solid and a sub I believe that’s what I’m going to build as a main army I might just grab two. I still have to look over all the rules to see if that’s even allowable.


The Dweghom kits are dual (Ballistae/Warriors & Dragonslayers/Thanes) so you can configure them as you want.
It's a very solid start to for an army and is allowed, Raegh has Ballistae and Warriors as Mainstay while the Thanes and DSlayers are restricted.

Edit: I bet the paint will be Army Painter. They have a partnership with Para Bellum or whatever.

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Looks very good. Though was expecting the Hunters to have some claymore, lumberjack axes or other decent sized melee weapon as they have Cleave 1.
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https://eshop.para-bellum.com/13-pre-orders

Pre-orders for the starter boxes are up. Apparently limited in quantity. Good deals.

Also, bases and stands available! I'll be buying a ton of these
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So many exciting things down the line for Conquest! Glad I ditched the rest and went all in this game

New faq with very good changes: https://www.para-bellum.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Conquest-AmendmentsFAQ-8-12-20.pdf
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From the video teaser, it seems the characters will be those presented in the "Portrait" series. So most likely a continuation of the Nepenthe and Ardent stories.
Really doubt they'd let people just write up "official" fluff with their characters. At best a background mention or whatever.

I remember them mentioning the Living World thing is basically opening up different set of outcomes for concrete events, like the Spire Drone Cult having a few options depending on the results, all of which plausible and set. So I'm not sure this is exactly like the "classic worldwide wargaming campaign" that shakes up forever the lore and gets retconned if not to the liking of the company.
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HYYYYYPE

https://www.para-bellum.com/living-world/

Seems like we will be able to determine which direction will some of the character take.
Lots of the locations and characters are known, other stuff on the map not so much. Super interested to see where this goes.
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They've got a crazy offer going on, the core box is already a steal but on top of that you get two other boxes.
Already got two cores so will have to pass.

I got to admit that the amount of constant discounts and free prizes they give away is baffling compared to how little other companies tend to do.



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The scale "issue" is often exaggerated. Many of the Conquest models fit perfectly in other games. They are similar to modern-GW (and work well as SCE, OB, Chaos alternatives), wouldn't be off for Kings of War (nighstalkers, giants, ogres, etc...) and even for agnostic games were everyone brings something different. I mean, some people play 25mm vs 28-32mm and don't complain. Or use Lego.

But most importantly, the models are great and work for Conquest which in terms of rules, fluff and fun is notably superior to other games
 
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