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Hey all, I have a question about charge range once a unit deep strikes/teleport onto the battlefield. you need to teleport more then 9" away from an enemy. Therefore, what is the minimum you need to roll for a successful charge...8 or 9"? I've seen battle reps doing both.

Thanks!

9". It's been answered several times.

I still think it's worded poorly and none of this would have come up had they worded it better, but yes, a 9" charge roll is required (essentially you're 10" from the opponent and need to close to within 1" to fight).

What it comes down to is that the rules say you have to place the unit "more than 9"" away from any enemy unit, and since the FAQ explicitly clarifies that "within X"" is anything less than or exactly that distance, that means the closes you could deep strike a unit and not be within 9" would be 9.x" away, where x is an infinitesimally small fraction of an inch, meaning that even if you got an 8" charge, you would be 1.x" away from the enemy unit, and not actually within range.

Elbows is right, though, because while they explained the range rules in the first FAQ, as well as clarifying that you would need a 9" charge, they didn't actually tie the two together to explain WHY you need a 9" charge.

Thanks all!

AnFéasógMór wrote:
What it comes down to is that the rules say you have to place the unit "more than 9"" away from any enemy unit, and since the FAQ explicitly clarifies that "within X"" is anything less than or exactly that distance, that means the closes you could deep strike a unit and not be within 9" would be 9.x" away, where x is an infinitesimally small fraction of an inch, meaning that even if you got an 8" charge, you would be 1.x" away from the enemy unit, and not actually within range.

Elbows is right, though, because while they explained the range rules in the first FAQ, as well as clarifying that you would need a 9" charge, they didn't actually tie the two together to explain WHY you need a 9" charge.

The reason is pretty straightforward.

You have to deploy more than 9" away. Even if it's only one micron.
A successful charge must end within 1".
Charging 8" from 9"-and-one-micron away would leave you 1"-and-one-micron away, so >1". Fail.
So a successful charge from 9"-and-one-micron away must need 9" to finish <1" away.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

AnFéasógMór wrote:
What it comes down to is that the rules say you have to place the unit "more than 9"" away from any enemy unit, and since the FAQ explicitly clarifies that "within X"" is anything less than or exactly that distance, that means the closes you could deep strike a unit and not be within 9" would be 9.x" away, where x is an infinitesimally small fraction of an inch, meaning that even if you got an 8" charge, you would be 1.x" away from the enemy unit, and not actually within range.

Elbows is right, though, because while they explained the range rules in the first FAQ, as well as clarifying that you would need a 9" charge, they didn't actually tie the two together to explain WHY you need a 9" charge.

The reason is pretty straightforward.

You have to deploy more than 9" away. Even if it's only one micron.
A successful charge must end within 1".
Charging 8" from 9"-and-one-micron away would leave you 1"-and-one-micron away, so >1". Fail.
So a successful charge from 9"-and-one-micron away must need 9" to finish <1" away.

...I'm not sure what you're trying to say, since you quoted me and then just literally said exactly what I said using slightly different language.

I explained why you need 9" to make the charge slightly more concisely. It flows perfectly from your last paragraph and reinforces what you wrote.

Don't assume people are attacking you!