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Boosting Ultramarine Biker




Hi got first 8th game tomorrow and I'm still a little unsure when modifiers to rolls take effect especially when re rolls occur?

My current understanding is that the modifiers happen after re rolls have taken place. So for example: a unit of devastators with HBolters moves and fires needing 3+ to hit normally they fire 12 shots with the HBs and get 7 hits of 3s 4s 5s and 6s and then one 2 and four 1s. Because they are 6' away from a captain they re roll all the 1s and now get two 6s a 3 and a 2. The modifier for moving now comes into effect and so both the 2 and the 3 now count as a Miss due to the -1 modifier on the 3.

Is this correct?

 
   
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos





Rosedale MD

Yes you are correct. Modifiers are applied last.

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Lord of the Fleet






Do note, the original 3s (that weren't rerolled) are also misses.
   
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Norn Queen






Rerolls before modifiers. It's not that difficult.
   
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Boosting Ultramarine Biker




 Scott-S6 wrote:
Do note, the original 3s (that weren't rerolled) are also misses.
but surely if modifiers are last seen they count as a hit before the re rolls

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Lord of the Fleet






No wolves on Fenris wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
Do note, the original 3s (that weren't rerolled) are also misses.
but surely if modifiers are last seen they count as a hit before the re rolls

They still get modified. Just because they didn't get re-rolled doesn't mean they're immune to modifiers. You don't decide if they are a hit or a miss until the end.

Hitting on 3+
You roll 6, 3, 1.
You re-roll the 1 and it becomes a 4.
You now have 6, 3, 4
You apply modifiers - you now have 5, 2, 3
Two hits, one miss.

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Servoarm Flailing Magos






Metalica

I'm fairly certain you two are arguing the same point and misunderstanding eachother.

 
   
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Boosting Ultramarine Biker




Nope that makes perfect sense now! Thank you

 
   
 
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