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Made in us
Norn Queen






The Bio flails abilities text reads

Each time the barer fights, you make a number of hit rolls against the target unit equal to the number of models from that unit within 2" of the Stone Crusher Carnifex.


There could be a few ways to read this.

1) A Chainsward grants 1 addition attack with the chainsword "When it fights". You don't actually have to use the chainsword to get the extra attack, there fore I feel like the bioflail just generates extra attacks regardless of whether you select it as your weapon or not. (So the SCC A characteristic + number of models within 2".)

2) each time you pick the bioflail to attack it generates a number of attacks equal to the models within 2" (Number of models within 2" of SCC x A characteristic)

Any others? What does everything think is correct?

Right now I am thinking it's 1. Many weapon abilities wouldn't do anything if you had to select the weapon for it to trigger. And if you picked the flail as your weapon it would just be 1 attack using it's profile. The ability doesn't seem to say otherwise.





These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
 
   
Made in gb
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

Based on the Chainsword, it's 1. Nothing in the rule requires you to fight *with* that weapon to be able to use the ability.

Edit: the two following weapon profiles further confirm this, by having very different text.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/10/25 18:08:15


 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





You may want to read chainswords again. It says "1 additional attack with this weapon". So, yes, you don't have to choose it to gain the extra attack, but that extra attack is only made with the chainsword.

Then, look up the Forge World FAQ:


Pages 18 and 83 – Bio-flail
Change the abilities text to read:
‘Each time the bearer fights, one (and only one) of its attacks can be made with this weapon. When the bearer fights with this weapon, make a number of hit rolls against one target unit equal to the number of models that the target unit has within 2" of the bearer.’

 Galef wrote:
If you refuse to use rock, you will never beat scissors.
 
   
Made in us
Norn Queen






 Yarium wrote:
You may want to read chainswords again. It says "1 additional attack with this weapon". So, yes, you don't have to choose it to gain the extra attack, but that extra attack is only made with the chainsword.

Then, look up the Forge World FAQ:


Pages 18 and 83 – Bio-flail
Change the abilities text to read:
‘Each time the bearer fights, one (and only one) of its attacks can be made with this weapon. When the bearer fights with this weapon, make a number of hit rolls against one target unit equal to the number of models that the target unit has within 2" of the bearer.’


Excellent. I missed that. Much clearer wording. Thanks a bunch.


These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
 
   
Made in gb
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

 Yarium wrote:
You may want to read chainswords again. It says "1 additional attack with this weapon". So, yes, you don't have to choose it to gain the extra attack, but that extra attack is only made with the chainsword.

Then, look up the Forge World FAQ:


Pages 18 and 83 – Bio-flail
Change the abilities text to read:
‘Each time the bearer fights, one (and only one) of its attacks can be made with this weapon. When the bearer fights with this weapon, make a number of hit rolls against one target unit equal to the number of models that the target unit has within 2" of the bearer.’


Ah FAQ nukes that idea then! Good spot dude.

 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
 
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