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**Elian**

Spartacus wrote:
I love me some D-Scythe wraithguard.

I have a list with 16 of them in Waveserpents. Its like an overload of tank type targets, because you really need to hit Wraithguard with antitank guns if you wanna take them out quickly.

The wraithcannons don't really interest me as it makes them so one-dimensional. The D-scythes only do a little bit worse vs vehicles and such, but obviously far better against smaller targets. When using the cannons I found they tended to get swarmed by infantry if my opponent couldn't shoot them to death, and even though you can fall back and still shoot, the screen is usually enough to block off my ability to get at the bigger targets they actually want to shoot.

The Dscythes have no such issue. If someone wants to charge them, they first have to eat some of the nastiest overwatch in the game, usually enough to pretty much wipe a squad of Guardsmen or Firewarriors for example. Much more difficult to put away. More expensive of course, but I'd rather pay more points and do something than take the cannons and do nothing, I tried and just couldn't make them work.

Wraithblades don't really interest me, but I see a lot of people doing great things with them using the wraith-host detachment.

I get it i really do.

For me is the opposite though.
A lot of Yanden stratagems and relics (plus the wraithhost detachment!!) focus on getting your wraith into combat.

To me wraithblades could become litterally beast with some support!

Copied form 1d4chan:

Wraithblades have 2 attacks Therefore you get 2 attacks ×2 due to Psytronome, then +1 due to charge, then +1 due to Ghostswords making in total 6 attacks

Plus the stratagem from wraith host that makes 7 attack, you can use another stratagem to make them reroll the hits, you can move with the warlock powers you can give the 4++ invulnerable that becomes 3++ again with powers.

The Dscythes imho have too short of a range to be effective and sometimes they can't do any overwatch If the enemy is more than 8".

**Elian**

Spartacus wrote:
Yeah absolutely, the rules interactions make a Wraithblade star absolutely beastly.

I just meant the models themselves don't really interest me, I much prefer the shooty ones.

Never had a problem with making the 8 inch range work, like I said always put them in Wave serpents and always advance, use the stratagem if you have to. If they don't get much overwatch because the enemy is far away, no matter, they might not make the charge, and its not like the wraithcannons hitting on 6's are worth much more by comparison.

Got it my guy!

My point was: to me the wraithguards are not competitive as the wraithblades but than again if i were in a competitive setting i would take shining spears instead, they fill a similar role in my opinion

**Elian**

We played narrowing the search so, that was bringing them closer to me making the charge inevitable so that really helped. The vibro cannons did surprising good work on plinking off wounds. The blight haulers are really good. Hate those things! lol. Victory was only achieved by a narrow margin and Wave Serpent surviving shooting on 1 W! lol.

Vibro cannons are insane they cost so little and they can do so much, i fielded 9 the other day scary stuff!

**Elian**

I was up against a lot of those chicken looking thingy from the mechanicum 12 wounds a piece a lot of dakka. they were scary too!

**Elian**

WW's w Starcannon and biel tan warlod traits are beast

**Elian**

4+? It is because you're not using the exarch!
Hitting on 3+ rerolling one's is just more reliable

**Elian**

Gotcha!
Didn't get it at first thanks

Personally i'll never switch my CHE for something like the Nightwing it doesn't seem as reliable as the others (Hemlock CHE)

**Elian**

I tried and i love it.

Thing is like most of our units, the Falcon should have some special rules that makes it unique Imho

My friend keep saying that the fire prims and the falcon are the same but i am not keen on believe it..

He's point being that they have the same role and if the falcon has an AML.
In terms of shots it's practically the same to a prims who's shooting at strength 9...

**Elian**

Not really unlike the prisms you don't have any linked fire stratagem.

It would be cool to leave the points like that and adding this special rule

**Elian**

Another question regarding the Falcon.

What unit do you embark in it?

Personally i go with QG and Dark reapers occasionally even Rangers

**Elian**

Yeah i put the DE in the Falcon just for the first turn i don't have any intention of moving them! the -1 is really really bad

**Elian**

>lay down
>pretend to be dead

Jokes aside i found that our planes combining with our psykich power can do a lot against our dark kin.

Plus shining spear!
My opponent had some kabalites in a venom and i encircled that cardboard boaty think killing all what was inside.
Shining spear are still awesome imho

**Elian**

Alaitoc Warp Spiders are beasts you can easily go -4 to hit

**Elian**

Hey guys i've wrote a list in dire need of your opinion

Here

**Elian**

Oh no that was my selling point i just finished mounting an painting them D:

**Elian**

Yeah but each of the Dark Reaper's exarch has the tempest (2D6) and i have the AML 1D6.

I thought it was more than enough to keep hordes at bay

**Elian**

I agree the tempest is a good weapon..

Regarding the Banshee i don't use them regularly mainly because they need a lot of psychic support during the fight phase.

Hitting isn't an issue wounding is even facing a unit with toughness 3 is a problem, wounding on 4's is not ideal at all

**Elian**

"Every one loves the vibro cannon"

DDDD

**Elian**

slave.entity wrote:
Sterling191 wrote:
Elian wrote:
4+? It is because you're not using the exarch!
Hitting on 3+ rerolling one's is just more reliable

but it requires positioning (which isnt always an option).

Another thing to note is due to the retractable wings, nightwings have even more absurd maneuverability than your regular Wings of Khaine flyer.

Extended wings mode provides +1 BS so with the built-in CTM you're hitting those bright lances on 2s. That is VERY respectable considering for 70 pts more than a hemlock you can have 2 nightwings. They are really cheap.

As a bonus they also come with a 5++ in retracted mode.

You're hitting on 3's if you are not targeting the nearest because if you have to advance other than that i still think it is better to have a CHE

**Elian**

Go with Jinx and a lot of smites! Those are your best friends against the golden boiz

**Elian**

Not in ETC you won't

**Elian**

Well in Italy/Germany they mostly won't D: don't know about you guys up there

**Elian**

Yeah as i stated before i was talking about ETC not the official tournaments <3

**Elian**

They are good in one thing and one thing only:
Dying.

Plan accordingly.