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- 2 Autarchs for rerolls / path of command
- 2 spiritseer for smite / runes of battle
- 1 Farseer for Guide + Doom , Relic: Falchou Wings
- 20 man guardian unit for Webway strike strategem
- 3x rangers + Ilic Nightspear for character sniping / deepstrike shield
- 9 scatbikes for antihorde
- 8 dark reapers for heavy duty
- 3 prisms for linked fire strategem

8 CP


++ Battalion (CP +3) (Aeldari_Unified) [592 Pts] ++

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Guardian Defenders [190 Pts]: 20x Guardian, 2x Heavy Weapon Platform, 2x Shuriken Cannon

Rangers [60 Pts]: 5x Ranger

Rangers [60 Pts]: 5x Ranger

Rangers [60 Pts]: 5x Ranger

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Autarch [77 Pts]: Forceshield, Star Glaive

Farseer [100 Pts]: Witchblade

Spiritseer [45 Pts]

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Spiritseer [45 Pts]

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Dark Reapers [243 Pts]: Dark Reaper Exarch, Reaper Launcher
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Fire Prism [160 Pts]: Twin Shuriken Catapult

Fire Prism [160 Pts]: Twin Shuriken Catapult

Fire Prism [160 Pts]: Twin Shuriken Catapult

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Autarch with Swooping Hawk Wings [INDEX] [108 Pts]: Forceshield, Fusion Gun

Illic Nightspear [80 Pts]

+ Fast Attack +

Windriders [84 Pts]: 3x Scatter Laser, 3x Windrider

Windriders [84 Pts]: 3x Scatter Laser, 3x Windrider

Windriders [84 Pts]: 3x Scatter Laser, 3x Windrider

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thoughts?

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Hamburg

Looks like you have a battle plan.
Indeed, an army should have options to fight the enemy at all threat ranges and this is what your army has.
Not sure about the scatterlasers of the Windriders? Longer range but shuricannons can be more lethal.
The DR will be on the top of the enemy's priority target list. This could become a problem if the enemy goes first. Then better mount them in a Serpent.

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 wuestenfux wrote:
Looks like you have a battle plan.
Indeed, an army should have options to fight the enemy at all threat ranges and this is what your army has.
Not sure about the scatterlasers of the Windriders? Longer range but shuricannons can be more lethal.
The DR will be on the top of the enemy's priority target list. This could become a problem if the enemy goes first. Then better mount them in a Serpent.


Do you suggest swapping the third fire prism for a Waveserpent to hide DRs first turn?

Obviously is mandatory to start first. It's like an "all-in" army list.

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Hamburg

FarseerReborn wrote:
 wuestenfux wrote:
Looks like you have a battle plan.
Indeed, an army should have options to fight the enemy at all threat ranges and this is what your army has.
Not sure about the scatterlasers of the Windriders? Longer range but shuricannons can be more lethal.
The DR will be on the top of the enemy's priority target list. This could become a problem if the enemy goes first. Then better mount them in a Serpent.


Do you suggest swapping the third fire prism for a Waveserpent to hide DRs first turn?

Obviously is mandatory to start first. It's like an "all-in" army list.

Going first is not always guaranteed.
Indeed, its easiest to replace a Prism by a Serpent.

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Florida

Either get a Wave Serpent or put the Reapers in the Webway Portal. They will be a priority target.

While I like dropping a lot of Guardian shots, I'm not so sure how useful they will be. They will shoot once, then get hammered and lose more models with failed morale.

I have not played with the Fire Prism, but am unsure if three are necessary.

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I think the Webway/Cloudstrike Stratagems are a great way to hide a unit like Dark Reapers, or any big scary shooting unit which you don't want to take a beating first turn. Only 1 CP as well.

I have just finished repainting my 3 fire prism (replacing an old paintjob from 4th edition) and very excited to use them all. I haven't played since the codex dropped but my theory is that you take multiple FP's to make use of the very powerful and inexpensive linked fire stratagem which needs at least 2, so having an extra one is insurance against one getting destroyed or crippled first turn. If they arent targeted before they can shoot, you get an extra FP's worth of shooting to add to the linked fire, or to blast something else if required. FP's seem effective and versatile enough for their points cost that having an extra one will not be a tax.

   
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 Sarigar wrote:
Either get a Wave Serpent or put the Reapers in the Webway Portal. They will be a priority target.

True but if they are set up far back in cover, the combination of -1 to hit, a 2+ save and being out of range of most guns should help to protect them.

 Sarigar wrote:
While I like dropping a lot of Guardian shots, I'm not so sure how useful they will be. They will shoot once, then get hammered and lose more models with failed morale.

This is a real risk. For this to work you need some way of stopping Moral losses. The Alaitoc Warlord Trait means they can auto-pass Morale if within 6" of the Warlord and the Alaitoc Artefact allows you to DS a character in with the Guardians. The Winged Autarch could also do the job. Basically you need one of these to avoid them being wiped out.

 Sarigar wrote:
I have not played with the Fire Prism, but am unsure if three are necessary.

I agree, 2 should be adequate. With 60" range, not much should be able to target them if you deploy them carefully.

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If you ds the guardians I think the List seems a bit vulnerable to infiltrate armies I think or to ds warptime close assault. You have nothing to hide the gunline behind easily. Opponents are going to want to close fast on alaitoc lists
You could use your guardians for that and ds the reapers though. Think that would be c useful as a secondary tactic.



   
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Thanks for the comments. Trying this list next week



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eldritchstormer wrote:
If you ds the guardians I think the List seems a bit vulnerable to infiltrate armies I think or to ds warptime close assault. You have nothing to hide the gunline behind easily. Opponents are going to want to close fast on alaitoc lists
You could use your guardians for that and ds the reapers though. Think that would be c useful as a secondary tactic.





Rangers and Illic should be enough to keep deepstrikers and/or alphastrikes at bay, creating a 9'' no-DS-zone around them


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This is a real risk. For this to work you need some way of stopping Moral losses. The Alaitoc Warlord Trait means they can auto-pass Morale if within 6" of the Warlord and the Alaitoc Artefact allows you to DS a character in with the Guardians. The Winged Autarch could also do the job. Basically you need one of these to avoid them being wiped out.


But then the Warlord will be exposed. Don't want to give a free victory point to my enemy. Was thinking about spending one more CP to give webway strike guardians 4++ invuln for a turn.

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But then the Warlord will be exposed. Don't want to give a free victory point to my enemy. Was thinking about spending one more CP to give webway strike guardians 4++ invuln for a turn.


I think that the Shield Strategem + Protect is going to cause problems for some opponents. 20 Guardian squads left unchecked can make up their points fairly quickly.
   
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Updated the list:

-added Eldrad Ulthuan instead of Ilic
- shuriken cannons on bikes
- 2x Crimson Hunter exarch... love that distance, love that -2 on being hit 4evah


++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [39 PL, 719pts] ++

+ HQ +

Autarch with Swooping Hawk Wings [5 PL, 104pts]: Forceshield, Fusion Pistol, Plasma Grenades, Power sword, The Path of Command (Codex)

+ Heavy Support +

Dark Reapers [7 PL, 135pts]
. 4x Dark Reaper: 4x Reaper Launcher
. Dark Reaper Exarch: Reaper Launcher

Fire Prism [9 PL, 160pts]: Twin Shuriken Catapult

Fire Prism [9 PL, 160pts]: Twin Shuriken Catapult

Fire Prism [9 PL, 160pts]: Twin Shuriken Catapult

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [50 PL, 960pts] ++

+ HQ +

Eldrad Ulthran [8 PL, 150pts]: 1. Guide, 2. Doom, 3. Fortune

Spiritseer [3 PL, 45pts]: 1. Conceal/Reveal

Spiritseer [3 PL, 45pts]: 4. Protect/Jinx

+ Troops +

Guardian Defenders [9 PL, 190pts]: 20x Guardian Defender
. Guardian Heavy Weapons Platform: Shuriken Cannon
. Guardian Heavy Weapons Platform: Shuriken Cannon

Rangers [3 PL, 60pts]: 5x Ranger

Rangers [3 PL, 60pts]: 5x Ranger

Rangers [3 PL, 60pts]: 5x Ranger

+ Flyer +

Crimson Hunter Exarch [9 PL, 175pts]: Two Bright Lances

Crimson Hunter Exarch [9 PL, 175pts]: Two Bright Lances

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [16 PL, 329pts] ++

+ HQ +

Autarch [4 PL, 77pts]: Forceshield, Plasma Grenades, Star Glaive, The Path of Command (Codex)

+ Fast Attack +

Windriders [4 PL, 84pts]
. 3x Windrider - Shuriken Cannon: 3x Shuriken Cannon

Windriders [4 PL, 84pts]
. 3x Windrider - Shuriken Cannon: 3x Shuriken Cannon

Windriders [4 PL, 84pts]
. 3x Windrider - Shuriken Cannon: 3x Shuriken Cannon

++ Total: [105 PL, 2008pts] ++

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