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Trying a thought experiment for a list that sounded interesting to me that would be fun to try and play

Could either build this as a Cadian army for the reroll 1's (particularly with the Macharius tanks), or as a Valhallan army to keep the big tanks firing at full effectiveness until they're already dead and to mitigate morale issues on the infantry screen.


Superheavy Detachment (+3CP) - 1218

Shadowsword, 1 set of LC/HB sponsons
Macharius Vulcan, sponson HB's
Macharius Vulcan, sponson HB's


Batallion Detachment (+3CP's) - 390

HQ: Company Commander (warlord, Kurov's Aquila, Grand Strategist Warlord Trait)
HQ: Company Commander
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Grenade Launcher & Mortar
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Grenade Launcher & Mortar
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Grenade Launcher & Mortar
Fast Attack: Armored Sentinel w/Lascannon
Fast Attack: Armored Sentinel w/Lascannon
Fast Attack: Armored Sentinel w/Lascannon


Batallion Detachment (+3CP's) - 390

HQ: Company Commander
HQ: Company Commander
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Grenade Launcher & Mortar
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Grenade Launcher & Mortar
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Grenade Launcher & Mortar
Fast Attack: Armored Sentinel w/Lascannon
Fast Attack: Armored Sentinel w/Lascannon
Fast Attack: Armored Sentinel w/Lascannon


Total: 1998pts.

12 CP's (though with Warlord Trait and Kurov's Aquila will probably generally be more 16-20), 3 Detachments, 19 distinct units, 3 SH tanks, 6 walkers, 64 infantry.


Basically the idea is that the Superheavies do a majority of the killing. The Shadowsword is the one real obvious hammer in the army, the Macharius Vulcan's are pretty solid too however, outperforming most dedicated tank hunter units (like quadlas preds) at tank killing while being amazing muppet mowers and sporting a 60" range with a very consistent and minimally variable damage output. Warlord is going to spend most of the battle hiding as best as possible, generating CP's and basically just being a passive force multiplier, while the other officers cover Orders. The Infantry squads and officers are there largely to screen the tanks and finish off wounded units and nab objectives, not too much exciting there. Sentinels are there for supplementary fire support and largely just to be annoying and provide something else an opponent can't afford totally ignore but doesn't necessarily want to devote resources to killing either.

An alternative thought would be to drop the Sentinels, and replace them with either with a trio of Hellhounds, Wyverns, or Basilisks or something, and if there's points left over see if I can fit in a support character or two like a pysker.


Thoughts?

That is an interesting list and looks powerful. Only thing I don't like are the armored sentinels. Those guys don't hit well or have the volume of shots to be worthwhile. Scout sentials with flamers have the ability to create deepstrike denial but the armored ones with a single shot like a lascannon just fail.

Good options for your list include something to grab objectives like drop scions.

In case you shuffle something, keep in mind that you are not getting regimental bonuses in super heavy *auxiliary* detachments (pg 132 of the codex).

Nasty list. Depending on what you want to do, vallahans are really strong halving losses from morale. Cadian is a great choice.
Look into the "Old Grudges" warlord trait and "Relic of Lost Cadia". Those combined pretty much guarantee kills of super heavies and chaos armies. \

I'd personally go valhallan unless you plan on fighting a lot of Chaos units.