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Made in ca
Monstrously Massive Big Mutant






I know I cant get the traits if I have a detachment with a daemon unit inside it, but can I still use CSM stratagems on things inside that detachment that are applicable? Like an outrider detachment of fleshhounds and warp talons. Can I still target the Talons with a CSM stratagem?
   
Made in gb
Norn Queen






 vaklor4 wrote:
I know I cant get the traits if I have a detachment with a daemon unit inside it, but can I still use CSM stratagems on things inside that detachment that are applicable? Like an outrider detachment of fleshhounds and warp talons. Can I still target the Talons with a CSM stratagem?
To unlock stratagems you need at least one "Chaos Space Marine Detachment", which is defined as one containing only those with the keywords on page 156. This is detailed at the top of page 158. If you want to use CSM stratagems, you are going to have to put your Daemons into their own detachment and take a pure CSM Detachment as well.

Edit: I am dum please disregard my idiocy again.

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Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




Auxiliary support detachments are explicitly listed as Not unlocking stratagems :(

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Norn Queen






Captyn_Bob wrote:
Auxiliary support detachments are explicitly listed as Not unlocking stratagems :(
Yup, my bad. Had it confused with Cult Ambush in my mind which IS unlocked. Sorry about that.
   
Made in us
Powerful Phoenix Lord





Buffalo, NY

As long as the unit you are targeting meet the requirements for that specific stratagem, then yes. So if a stratagem targets a CHAOS SPACE MARINES INFANTRY unit, then any unit with e CHAOS SPACE MARINE keyword and INFANTRY keyword is a legal target.

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Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia 
   
Made in au
Furious Raptor




Sydney, Australia

 BaconCatBug wrote:
To unlock stratagems you need at least one "Chaos Space Marine Detachment", which is defined as one containing only those with the keywords on page 156. This is detailed at the top of page 158. If you want to use CSM stratagems, you are going to have to put your Daemons into their own detachment and take a pure CSM Detachment as well.


Alternatively you can allocate your daemon points as reinforcement points and use the summoning rules, but as they are... ah... underwhelming at best, probably better off doing a separate detachment.
   
 
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