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Made in im
Beast of Nurgle





Sometimes I look at something in my new Death Guard book, and realize it doesn't quite say what I think it does...

"You can use this Stratagem at the end of a Fight phase in which one of your DEATH GUARD CHARACTERS (..) slays an enemy..."


Should that be "any of your", or "at least one of your"? What happens if e.g. 2 DGCs made the criterion?
Do I get to roll twice, or apply one result to two models? Should I choose only one character to receive the boon? Or does no-one get it, as two characters does not equal one character?

My assumed HIWPI/RAI reading:

"You can use this Stratagem at the end of a Fight phase in which at least one of your DEATH GUARD CHARACTERS (..) slays an enemy... Select one of those characters."


Bonus question: the Daemonhood result creates a Daemon Prince. Is it OK to use a Daemon Prince of Nurgle instead?
If not, which book(s) contain the right Daemon Prince, is it the Daemons one or the Astartes one?
Are all three functionally identical, save lacking Disgusting Resilient on the non-DG two?

Bonus question 2: is the Chaos Boon Stratagem in the CSM book exactly the same?

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/11/28 09:54:26


 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




This looks like a copy paste error. The DG boon should be for a Daemon Prince of Nurgle (codices are intended to be standalone, there shouldn't be a need for another document to make thier rules work)


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And yes, the chaos marine dex also says daemon prince. But that codex has the correctly named model.


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(Being awkward answering the bonus question first :p)

At least one would be more correct, but the existing wording is fine. It doesn't say exactly one, if that's what you are suggesting.

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Made in gb
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

Yes you choose a model, it doesn't affect multiple models.

BQ1: The Stratagem tells you the Daemon Prince must have the NURGLE Keyword. So a DPoNurgle should be fine. Is also the only Daemn Prince in the Codex, so I'd guess purely wording oversight.

BQ2: no idea.

 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
Made in im
Beast of Nurgle





Ok cool. I know it's pretty fringe and probably noncompetitive, but I quite like building around these "Johnny" mechanics every now and again for fun!

Another thing I just thought of... what defines "to slay", or "slain"?

e.g. the Living Plague trait causes mortal wounds in the Fight phase, I assume these are legit "slays" (if they kill).

"If a model's wounds are reduced to 0, it is either slain or destroyed and removed from play."

Huh, what? This sentence, oh dear... Is it:

1) Either "slay and Rfp" or "destroy and Rfp"
2) Either "slay" or "destroy and Rfp"
3) Rfp. This can count as either slaying or destroying, depending on what your rule asks for.

I'm gonna stick with 3. Fun!
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




Slain and destroying are saying the same thing, but destroy is used for vehicles. I think it's just a wording thing, not a rules difference.

RFP is slightly different. Models that flee from failed morale checks are RFP but are not slain.

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Made in gb
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

Slain, killed, destroyed, same thing. It's been clarified somewhere n

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 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
 
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