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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/02 16:35:34
Subject: [2000] - Craftworlds Ulthwe, Alaitoc and Saim-Hann - 9 Command Points
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So after a number of games and working to find decent balance between Command Points and most effective units/traits, I have come to this list.
Been difficult finding a good balance to fit the best units and still have enough CPs to use the stratagems but hopefully I have found a sweet spot as follows:
Ulthwe Battalion - 617pts
Eldrad (Doom, Exec, M War) Warlord Trait - Fate Reader (gain CPs)
Warlock (Quicken/Restrain)
20 Guardian Defenders
5 Dire Avenger Exarch with Two Avenger Catapults
5 Dire Avenger Exarch with Two Avenger Catapults
WaveSerpent with 3 Shuriken Cannons and Vectored Engines
Alaitoc Battalion - 1150pts
Spirit Seer (Conceal/Reveal)
Farseer (Guide, Fortune)
5 Rangers
5 Rangers
5 Rangers
9 Dark Reapers Exarch with Tempest Launchwr
WaveSerpent with 3 Shurikan Cannons, Spirit Stones and Vectored Engines
Hemlock (Jinx)
Hemlock (Restrain)
Saim-Hann Patrol 233pts
Spirit Seer (Protect/Jinx)
6 Shining Spears Exarch with Star Lance
So my views on this are:
2 Farseers inc Eldrad gives me full array of spells and use of Seer Council with Eldrad and Quicken Warlock. Eldrad will be pushing up the table whereas my 2nd Farseer will be baby sitting my Reapers.
We way the Guardians and can use Black Guardians Stratagem for 40 x BS2+ shots which should help deal with hordes. Always have the option to give them the 4++ inv Stratagem and maybe Protect too to roadblock something.
Dire Avengers can help with some more Horde Clearance and capture midfield objectives
Saim Hann Patrol is just to open up access to advance and charge Stratagem for turn 1 charges and increase threat ranges. Just too good not to take. Would like more of these but just can't squeeze any more.
The rest should be self explanatory (Reapers, Wave Serpents, Rangers and Hemlocks).
So essentially combination of best units with most useful Traits on them to synergise and decent CP quantity.
Appreciate comments/feedback.
Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/04 14:20:21
Subject: Re:[2000] - Craftworlds Ulthwe, Alaitoc and Saim-Hann - 9 Command Points
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Appreciate any feedback.
Any particular weaknesses? 2 Flyers help against Melee Alpha Strike, Rangers will die quickly against melee heavy armies but they are buying at least 1 extra turn shooting for rest of army. Fair rate of fire for tackling hordes. Circa 10 Smites can throw out in a turn between Smites, Executioner and Wave Serpents if needed.
Mind War will help against Synapse etc and Hemlocks push that spell further.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/04 17:25:52
Subject: [2000] - Craftworlds Ulthwe, Alaitoc and Saim-Hann - 9 Command Points
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Guarding Guardian
Coventry
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I don't think your patrol can have a HQ and a fast option. .
Personally i'd take more anti tank.
I'm guessing the spiritseer is there for smite as with no wraith units that roll to hit you're not using any of his other perks over a warlock.
As you have 9 command points and Eldrad can spin up some more it may be an idea to slot an Autarch in. It will have a chance to get each one back. That buff works better with each extra command point you have.
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Eldar 2000
Harlequin 2000
GSC 2000
Raven Guard 5000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/04 18:20:54
Subject: [2000] - Craftworlds Ulthwe, Alaitoc and Saim-Hann - 9 Command Points
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Good spot. I moved the Shining Spears into the Ulthwe detachment instead due to the Patrol requiring troop.
Actually down graded the Spirit Seer to Warlock and put in with Alaitoc so have option for Seer Coucil Stratagem in both detachments.
With spare points switched around armament on Reapers Wave Serpen to have Twin Bright Lances for a little more Anti-Tank.
I could ditch the extra Spirit Seer and switch back the Brighrj Lances to Shurikan Cannons to look to squeeze Autarch in. Will ulthwe for the bonuses you mentioned, plus Would nicely buff Shining Spears and Black Guardians..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/05 18:03:18
Subject: [2000] - Craftworlds Ulthwe, Alaitoc and Saim-Hann - 9 Command Points
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Almost identical to the first draft CWE list I posted recently!
Must mean the formula is about right... or we are both bad!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/06 15:09:26
Subject: [2000] - Craftworlds Ulthwe, Alaitoc and Saim-Hann - 9 Command Points
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Awesome, well in that case I hope we are both on the right path
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