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Alright i feel bad making this list, but your thoughts

Magnus

Chaos sorcerer lord in terminator armor

Rubric marines x10
-Reaper assault cannon
-8 Warp flamers
-1 Warp pistol

Rubric Marines x10
-Reaper assault cannon
-8 inferno bolters
-1 inferno pistol


Rubric Marines x10
-Reaper assault cannon
-8 inferno bolters
-1 inferno pistol

Oblitorators x3

Oblitorators x3


Summoned in
The changling
Pink Horrors x10

Give them all alpha legion tachtics. Use 3 CP to infultrate the rubrics, lacing them together in the following pattern XOXOXOXOXO Where O are the flamers, forcing anything that wants to charge me to split charge and get over watched by 8 warp flamers and the inferno bolters.
Deep strike the obitorators in, with the chaos sorcerer, then on the next turn summon up the changling, or use magnus to do so, to give them a -2 to hit at 12 inches or more.

Magnus does general tom foolery and beems down anything big with his powers, while obitorators shoot from afar. Horrors would be there to back cap.

You have to deploy at least half your units in the normal fashion, infiltrating does not count as the normal fashion.

Why not have Brims for obsec instead of Pinks? You could fit in 30 bodies instead of 10, with the same T and Sv. That's literally 3x as survivable.

Aren't rubric marines locked into the Thousand Sons chapter tactic?

So as for normal deployment, does that include stratagems? Because my understanding is I set up, then use my strategmes to redeploy them as infultrate. I know the rule of half applies to seep striking units, but does it also apply to infultrate? If so I would love a brb page number for it.

As for rubircs, no so apparently ANY legion can take them. Trust me I'm I think they should be locked to t sons and black legion only but yeah anyone can use them.

Did bot think about the brim.


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Also I just checked the rule, half only applies to reserves, more then half my army is set up on the field when the game starts ergo im still with in legal limits of deploying. As at the start of the game I would have 4 units on the field, 3 rubric squads and Magnus. And 3 units in reserve, sorcerer and 2 oblitoraters. Summoned units do not count toward any force org chart or reserves.

That's not how it works.
Alpha legion deployment is a form of reserves.


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Quite low on CP too.

A dump detachment of cheap Renegades could solve both problems

btw... who need to charge rubric marines, many lists can obliterate them with firepower. In any case you need to setup on table at least half of your units

Nope, check the wording of forward operatives. They do not go into or come out of reserves. They are concealed on the battle field and then reveal themselves before the first battle round. They are technically still on the board not in reserves.


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Unless I'm horribly misinterpreting it. Because the way I understand it, is that they are on the battlefield when the game starts but are not revieled until the start of the first battle round.

It specifically says not on the battlefield, which is the requirement for deploying.

Yep, I just did some rule lawering with my group, and that is the case. So in that case. I could do the following

Split the pink horrors, into 3 groups of 10 brimstone's, as said above, same survivability. That puts me at 4 units on board, 6 off. If I made a patrol detachment of the horrors and the changing, that would make 5 on 6 off. And if I condenced it down to 1 10 man rubrics, 1 20 man rubric, that would be 5 and 5.

Could I take a battalion and use horrors as troops and rubrics as elites ? Would that work?

That would work fine, but you would need to deploy another hq.

When the daemon codex comes out you will probably not want to run a mixed detachment.

Oh wait! I got it!! Check this list out

Aux detatchment
Magnus

Batalion
The changeling
Sorcerer in tem armor

Brimstone's x10
Brimstone's x10
Brimstone's x10

Rubric marines x10
1 reaper auto Cannon
8 flamers
Icon

Rubric x20
2 Auto cannons
17 inferno bolters
1 icon

Obliterators x3
Oblitoraters x3

5 units on field 5 off



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Captyn_Bob wrote:
That would work fine, but you would need to deploy another hq.

When the daemon codex comes out you will probably not want to run a mixed detachment.

Honestly I'm waiting for the t sons codex to come out.

Since you're using Alpha Legion where marks don't really matter much, why not make those Obliterators Slaanesh to take advantage of the Endless Cacaphony stratagem. Doesn't affect your infiltrating Rubrics, and gives at least one of your shooting phases basically one extra Oblit squad.

Otherwise decent list here.

I gave them alpha legion so that way at 12 inches with the cursling they are at a -2 to hit. Meaning they are either going to draw lots of fire, in order to take them out. Or they are going to get to just open fire with, at worst case, 24 auto cannons, at best case, mini laz cannons a turn.