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Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut




Hi guys,

Reaching out to the experienced Nids players out there!

So, we decided to start an escalation league to kick start 2018. I've opted for a new army. Need a new painting project and no one near by plays nids, so...

Anyway.

I'm looking for some feedback on my 500pts as it stands.


++ Patrol Detachment (Tyranids) [34 PL, 497pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Hive Fleet: Kraken

+ Heavy Support +

Mawloc [6 PL, 105pts]: Toxinspike

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 184pts]: Chameleonic Mutation, Monstrous Rending Claws, Power: Catalyst, Power: The Horror, Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Adaptive Biology, Wings

+ Troops +

Genestealers [8 PL, 120pts]: 2x Acid Maw
. 10x Genestealer: 10x Rending Claws

Termagants [6 PL, 48pts]: 12x Termagant (Fleshborer)

Termagants [3 PL, 40pts]: 10x Termagant (Fleshborer)

++ Total: [34 PL, 497pts] ++



Alternatively,


++ Patrol Detachment (Tyranids) [28 PL, 499pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Hive Fleet: Jormungandr/Kronos

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 184pts]: Chameleonic Mutation, Monstrous Rending Claws, Power: Catalyst, Power: The Horror, Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Alien Cunning, Wings

+ Elites +

Venomthropes [5 PL, 90pts]: 3x Venomthrope

+ Troops +

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 33pts]: 3x Ripper Swarm

Tyranid Warriors [5 PL, 96pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter

Tyranid Warriors [5 PL, 96pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter

++ Total: [28 PL, 499pts] ++


List 1 :

Flyrant/Mawloc/stealers harass the army and scare things.

Termies take objectives.


List 2 :

Essentially, a shooty list with either +1 save or re-roll ones.

Warriors shoot things from cover. VC's shoot big things.

Rippers Burrow on a turn I need a fast uncontested objective.

I'm not sure theres a point in Min/Maxing a 500pts list with Nids. I can't see much to optimise!?

But any feedback is great.

The armies I will be facing will be a lot of marine armies with some crons and tau in there too.

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2017/12/27 21:46:05


 
   
Made in us
Been Around the Block




I like the look of list 2. Honestly I would drop the Flyrant to run a Prime to boost the warriors though. +1 makes them essentially BS 3+. Also I would take the Jormungandr Warlord Trait so that enemies don't receive cover from your Warriors guns. It should free up about 80 points as well, so you can add something. Biovores are nice and cheap, or you could add a Neurothrope for some psychic defense. Catalyst on the Venomthropes can let them shield warriors longer since they are going to be drawing a ton of fire until they are gone anyways.
   
Made in us
Been Around the Block




How about 10/20 fleshborer/devourer termies 2x10 hormies and 2 neurpthropes? nice easy battalion
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut




I considered that.

Lots of bodies, but nothing really good at killing.

Considering Im playing against atleast 5 MEQ armies out of 5 means I'll pretty much sit on the objectives to win.

I like the idea of dropping the Flyrant. But it then means EVERYTHING will hit the venomthropes,
Where as, dropping him in their face with -1 + Catalyst means he wont die at 500 pts but he could take out bigger targets.
   
Made in it
Longtime Dakkanaut




At the 500 point mark Venoms are really hard to take out. You can expect them to survive well into turn 3 if he uses only efficent fire on it, or turn 2 if he turns every gun on them, even what shouldn't target that profile.

Venoms are deceptively though, just to put things into perspective, it requires more than the fire of a manticore for each venom. I don't think you will face 3 manticores at 500.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/12/28 17:25:03


 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut




My my thoughts are.

Since I'll only have a few units. Ie, venoms, 2x warriors, rippers + Flyrant.

We gain points in the league for every VP we win by.

So I'll also be trying to grab objectives.
So... likely only 1 squad of warriors will have the buff the entire game. Unless they need to split for objectives.

But if they focus fire my venomthropes. It means my Flyrant is flying free and doing things.

Alternatively, I could swap out the Venoms for something else. Eg, 2 Biovores, ravagers, find a few points for a mawloc?



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Also,

Considering this for my 1k.


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Tyranids) [59 PL, 998pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Hive Fleet: Kraken

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 184pts]: Chameleonic Mutation, Monstrous Rending Claws, Power: Catalyst, Power: The Horror, Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Alien Cunning, Wings

Neurothrope [4 PL, 70pts]: Power: Onslaught

+ Elites +

Hive Guard [13 PL, 288pts]
. Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon
. Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon
. Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon
. Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon
. Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon
. Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon

+ Troops +

Genestealers [16 PL, 192pts]: 4x Acid Maw
. 16x Genestealer: 16x Rending Claws

Termagants [6 PL, 72pts]: 18x Termagant (Fleshborer)

Tyranid Warriors [9 PL, 192pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter

++ Total: [59 PL, 998pts] ++

This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2017/12/28 19:00:27


 
   
Made in gb
Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper





Leicester

Now it might be "that guy" behaviour... but 3 x flyrants is a detachment in its own right... and a bloody terrifying one at that... 4 command points and 3 big flying nasties in your face... at 500pts there's not an army built for 500pts that can dish out that kind of hurt in the first turn/2?

just a thought in case you REALLY want to win
GamerGuy
   
Made in ie
Irked Necron Immortal





I would run a Genestealer Cult detachment for your 1st game. Due to them being able to use Astra Militarium Detachment for every GSC detachment you have AND you can also run a Tyranids Detachment with your GSC/AM.

Imagine 3 Tank Commanders, Biovores and Purestrain Genestealers in the one list?

This would be a great 500pt game if you went with GSC;

+++ New Roster (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [27 PL, 498pts] +++

++ Patrol Detachment (Tyranids - Genestealer Cults) ++

+ HQ +

Acolyte Iconward: Icon of the Cult Ascendant

Patriarch: Power: Might From Beyond

+ Elites +

Purestrain Genestealers: 15x Purestrain Genestealer, 15x Purestrain Talons

+ Troops +

Neophyte Hybrids
. 6x Neophyte Hybrid
. Neophyte Hybrid (Special Weapon): Grenade Launcher
. Neophyte Leader: Autogun, Autopistol
. Neophyte Weapons Team: Missile Launcher

necrons - 2500+

Admech - 1500+  
   
 
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