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2828/01/14 18:49:34
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/
Blood Angels and Dark Angels FAQs, Space Marine FAQ updated.
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2018/01/14 20:34:30
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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So now the Redemptor Dreadnought Easy to Build is legal. Nice.
A buff to the "Speed of the Raven" Stratagem, also very nice.
Now a Vanilla Intercessor Sargeant can take a Power Sword, and a Captain a Powerfist and a Plasmagun like the Anniversary one. More options to primaris is always a good thing.
And the blood Angel Intercessor sargeant is the one with most options now, he can take a chainsword or powersword. Nice.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/01/14 20:34:57
Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2018/01/14 20:39:34
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Fixture of Dakka
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The Company Champion error is amusing.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2018/01/14 20:42:21
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Galas wrote:
Now a Vanilla Intercessor Sargeant can take a Power Sword.
They already could. Now they can leave their gun home. Not that anyone ever would, as it is free.
And the blood Angel Intercessor sargeant is the one with most options now, he can take a chainsword or powersword. Nice.
Yeah. I'm a bit jealous. I wish they'd give the chainsword option to the other chapters too, just for variety.
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2018/01/14 20:42:52
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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It was obvious that it was an error after the Eldar FAQ with the spirit stones. I have been paying 44p for him since the beginning.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2018/01/14 20:56:44
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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Crimson wrote: Galas wrote:
And the blood Angel Intercessor sargeant is the one with most options now, he can take a chainsword or powersword. Nice.
Yeah. I'm a bit jealous. I wish they'd give the chainsword option to the other chapters too, just for variety.
Heh - and here I am, writing the GW FAQ guys to update the PDF so Space Wolves get the same 'either or' that Blood Angels now have.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/01/14 20:57:03
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2018/01/14 21:05:03
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Ulfhednar_42 wrote:
Heh - and here I am, writing the GW FAQ guys to update the PDF so Space Wolves get the same 'either or' that Blood Angels now have.
Seriously, they should just give all chapters access to all power weapons and the chainsword. Maybe even power fists. And Reiver sergeants definitely should have some CC weapon options too. It is crazy that they don't.
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2018/01/14 23:16:56
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Galas wrote:So now the Redemptor Dreadnought Easy to Build is legal. Nice.
Unless you play dark angels or blood angels. LoL. Was it so hard to copy that paragraph into 2 other FAQs?
Nevermind. I'll play it with the option regardless of what the official FAQ says.
On the one hand I'm glad we got the FAQ for dark angels. On the other hand I expected more than 3 entries. I find it amusing that immediately after announcing the codex- FAQ cycle of 2 weeks, we had to wait longer than that, but obviously that was due to the holidays.
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2018/01/14 23:19:25
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Zustiur wrote:
Unless you play dark angels or blood angels. LoL. Was it so hard to copy that paragraph into 2 other FAQs?
Their codices already have the updated wording.
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2018/01/15 00:08:52
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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Ulfhednar_42 wrote: Crimson wrote: Galas wrote:
And the blood Angel Intercessor sargeant is the one with most options now, he can take a chainsword or powersword. Nice.
Yeah. I'm a bit jealous. I wish they'd give the chainsword option to the other chapters too, just for variety.
Heh - and here I am, writing the GW FAQ guys to update the PDF so Space Wolves get the same 'either or' that Blood Angels now have.
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If history is any indication, SW will get that and more. I expect their primaris troops entry to have actual options on most if not all models and not just sergeant equivalents.
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We Munch for Macragge! FOR THE EMPRUH! Cheesesticks and Humus! |
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2018/01/15 01:05:32
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Nasty Nob
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Oh, you chose to paint your marines in a unique way? Well feth you - GW apparently
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/01/15 01:07:03
ERJAK wrote:
The fluff is like ketchup and mustard on a burger. Yes it's desirable, yes it makes things better, but no it doesn't fundamentally change what you're eating and no you shouldn't just drown the whole meal in it.
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2018/01/15 01:15:31
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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davou wrote:
Oh, you chose to paint your marines in a unique way? Well feth you - GW apparently
Just give them a founding chapter keyword and run with it. Theres literally no reason ever to take a Sucessor chapter. In Dark Angels for example, you gain 0 benefits and only lose things. Play your sucessor with Dark Angels Keyword, and use Azrael's rules to run your chapter master, etc...
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2018/01/15 01:27:41
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Nasty Nob
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Galas wrote: davou wrote:
Oh, you chose to paint your marines in a unique way? Well feth you - GW apparently
Just give them a founding chapter keyword and run with it. Theres literally no reason ever to take a Sucessor chapter. In Dark Angels for example, you gain 0 benefits and only lose things. Play your sucessor with Dark Angels Keyword, and use Azrael's rules to run your chapter master, etc...
I mean, my marines are painted ultra... and I know that's what you should do. but it seems REALLY petty for gw to rule on that.
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ERJAK wrote:
The fluff is like ketchup and mustard on a burger. Yes it's desirable, yes it makes things better, but no it doesn't fundamentally change what you're eating and no you shouldn't just drown the whole meal in it.
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2018/01/15 02:54:17
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
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davou wrote: Galas wrote: davou wrote:
Oh, you chose to paint your marines in a unique way? Well feth you - GW apparently
Just give them a founding chapter keyword and run with it. Theres literally no reason ever to take a Sucessor chapter. In Dark Angels for example, you gain 0 benefits and only lose things. Play your sucessor with Dark Angels Keyword, and use Azrael's rules to run your chapter master, etc...
I mean, my marines are painted ultra... and I know that's what you should do. but it seems REALLY petty for gw to rule on that.
Psh. My Blood Angels are gonna be black. Except the Death Company, who are going to be red. Paint 'em how you want and be clear with your opponent what chapter you're running.
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2018/01/15 02:58:22
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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davou wrote: Galas wrote: davou wrote:
Oh, you chose to paint your marines in a unique way? Well feth you - GW apparently
Just give them a founding chapter keyword and run with it. Theres literally no reason ever to take a Sucessor chapter. In Dark Angels for example, you gain 0 benefits and only lose things. Play your sucessor with Dark Angels Keyword, and use Azrael's rules to run your chapter master, etc...
I mean, my marines are painted ultra... and I know that's what you should do. but it seems REALLY petty for gw to rule on that.
yeah this really only applies or the rare case where you have sucessor characters, like forge world etc. and does a UM tactic really mean much if you're using say... Gabriel angelos?
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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2018/01/15 04:07:07
Subject: Re:SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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The problem with the Successor Chapter Question is that some Successor Chapters have Special Characters that are fun to use.
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5250 pts
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Deathwatch: 1500 pts
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2018/01/15 04:24:13
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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I am jealous BA have a Librarian Dread as I want DA Mortis Dreads with HQ Dread options.
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No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester
The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
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2018/01/15 04:35:11
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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Manfred von Drakken wrote:Psh. My Blood Angels are gonna be black. Except the Death Company, who are going to be red. Paint 'em how you want and be clear with your opponent what chapter you're running.
Copy cat! I've been rocking that since my first army, the Sons of Sanguinus chapter, was painted in 1998!
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We Munch for Macragge! FOR THE EMPRUH! Cheesesticks and Humus! |
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2018/01/15 07:36:03
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Remember, if anyone gives you grief for not having a "proper" chapter color scheme just tell them they are in a rare variant paint job used during the XXX campaign.
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2018/01/15 08:48:57
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The warlord trait thing isn't even a change. It's a straight interpretation of how it's written in the Codex "...but only if your Warlord is from the relevant Chapter."
You can still use successors fluffwise, just not crunchwise. Paint them however you want, just put "Ultramarines" or whatever on the army list. All this does is stop you from using the Chapter specific traits and Forge World successor special characters effectively in the same army/detachment.
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2018/01/15 09:06:33
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Crimson wrote:Zustiur wrote:
Unless you play dark angels or blood angels. LoL. Was it so hard to copy that paragraph into 2 other FAQs?
Their codices already have the updated wording.
You are correct. This is what happens when I post from work without checking my books at home.
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2018/01/15 09:54:03
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Medicinal Carrots wrote:The warlord trait thing isn't even a change. It's a straight interpretation of how it's written in the Codex "...but only if your Warlord is from the relevant Chapter."
You can still use successors fluffwise, just not crunchwise. Paint them however you want, just put "Ultramarines" or whatever on the army list. All this does is stop you from using the Chapter specific traits and Forge World successor special characters effectively in the same army/detachment.
Equally the Speed Of The Raven isn't a buff, it's a straight-up clarification.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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2018/01/15 15:55:20
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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Agreed. Anyone that complains that Flesh Tearers, a Blood Angel Successor chapter, are using the Blood Angel chapter keyword and rules from the same codex at a pickup game is a TFG IMO. That's a very unbalanced restriction on successors for GW to put out just for using a single character and/or relic at best.
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We Munch for Macragge! FOR THE EMPRUH! Cheesesticks and Humus! |
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2018/01/15 16:21:09
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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We also get a little buff for White Scars, advance and firing assault weapons at full BS.
Too bad most weapons are rapid fire....
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2018/01/15 17:30:01
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Executing Exarch
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Nightlord1987 wrote:We also get a little buff for White Scars, advance and firing assault weapons at full BS.
Too bad most weapons are rapid fire....
Well helloooooo Hellblasters
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2018/01/16 12:09:03
Subject: SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Fixture of Dakka
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Galas wrote:
It was obvious that it was an error after the Eldar FAQ with the spirit stones. I have been paying 44p for him since the beginning.
Oh, I appreciate it was an obvious error - just a shame it wasn't obvious enough for an editor/writer to pick up while copying the entry until after three books have been released with it in
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2018/01/16 15:11:47
Subject: Re:SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Spawn of Chaos
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I'm a little confused by the Bolter Drill update;
Page 197 – Bolter Drill Change the first two sentences to read: ‘Use this Stratagem just before an Imperial Fists Infantry unit attacks in the Shooting phase. Until the end of the phase, each time you make a hit roll of 6+ for a model from that unit firing a bolt weapon, that model can immediately make another hit roll using the same weapon at the same target (these bonus attacks cannot themselves generate any further attacks).
That's what the first 2 sentences state word for word in my codex already. Now, I do have the ePub version so does that mean that the digital version got updated before I could read the difference?
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2018/01/16 15:25:06
Subject: Re:SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Lieutenant General
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mace_ace wrote:I'm a little confused by the Bolter Drill update;
Page 197 – Bolter Drill Change the first two sentences to read: ‘Use this Stratagem just before an Imperial Fists Infantry unit attacks in the Shooting phase. Until the end of the phase, each time you make a hit roll of 6+ for a model from that unit firing a bolt weapon, that model can immediately make another hit roll using the same weapon at the same target (these bonus attacks cannot themselves generate any further attacks).
That's what the first 2 sentences state word for word in my codex already. Now, I do have the ePub version so does that mean that the digital version got updated before I could read the difference?
Yellow text is new.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2018/01/16 16:19:28
Subject: Re:SM, BA, DA FAQ
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Spawn of Chaos
Massachusetts
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Ah, thank you.
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