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Had a question regarding the "Full Speed Ahead!" rule that Grot Tanks have;

Full Speed Ahead!

Grot Tanks have a Movement of 2D6", and this must be rolled for at the beginning of each Movement phase.

If you have multiple units of them, do you roll one 2d6 roll that counts for all the tanks at the start of each movement phase; or is it 2d6 rolled individually for each squad?
   
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Florence, KY

The unit's name is 'Grot Tanks'. Therefore the rule should be read as follows:

Full Speed Ahead!: The Grot Tanks unit has a Movement of 2D6", and this must be rolled for at the beginning of each Movement phase.

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cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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I don't think that's right. Units don't have a move characteristic, models do.

Take the Advance rule in the core rules. It says to increase the models' movement characteristics, not the unit's.

Therefore I would say you roll for each model separately.
   
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Stux wrote:
I don't think that's right. Units don't have a move characteristic, models do.

Take the Advance rule in the core rules. It says to increase the models' movement characteristics, not the unit's.

Therefore I would say you roll for each model separately.


By that logic, Advance requires you to roll separately for each model in a unit.

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Florence, KY

Stux wrote:
I don't think that's right. Units don't have a move characteristic, models do.

Take the Advance rule in the core rules. It says to increase the models' movement characteristics, not the unit's.

Therefore I would say you roll for each model separately.


From page 175 of the main rulebook, 'Modifying Characteristics':

You may encounter a characteristic that is a random value instead of a number. For example, a Move characteristic might be 2D6", or an Attacks value might be D6. When a unit with a random Move characteristic is selected to move, determine the entire unit’s move distance by rolling the indicated number of dice (pg 176).

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
Made in gb
Horrific Hive Tyrant





 JNAProductions wrote:
Stux wrote:
I don't think that's right. Units don't have a move characteristic, models do.

Take the Advance rule in the core rules. It says to increase the models' movement characteristics, not the unit's.

Therefore I would say you roll for each model separately.


By that logic, Advance requires you to roll separately for each model in a unit.


No, because the Advancing rule specifically says you roll once and then add the amount to the Move characteristic of each model in the unit.


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 Ghaz wrote:
Stux wrote:
I don't think that's right. Units don't have a move characteristic, models do.

Take the Advance rule in the core rules. It says to increase the models' movement characteristics, not the unit's.

Therefore I would say you roll for each model separately.


From page 175 of the main rulebook, 'Modifying Characteristics':

You may encounter a characteristic that is a random value instead of a number. For example, a Move characteristic might be 2D6", or an Attacks value might be D6. When a unit with a random Move characteristic is selected to move, determine the entire unit’s move distance by rolling the indicated number of dice (pg 176).


This, however, clearly proves me wrong with regards to this particular rule! As there is a specific exception for random movement.

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