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Outrider Detachment
HQ:
Librarian - Warlord, Jump Pack, Force Sword, Hand Flamer
Techmarine - Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Servo-arm

Fast Attack
Assault Squad - 10x - Jump Packs, Sgt w/ Bolt Pistol, Combat Shield, Power Fist
Assault Squad - 10x - Jump Packs, Sgt w/ Bolt Pistol, Combat Shield, Power Fist
Assault Squad - 5x - Jump Packs, Sgt w/ Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
Assault Squad - 5x - Jump Packs, Sgt w/ Bolt Pistol, Chainsword

Vanguard Detachment
HQ:
Lemartes
Techmarine - Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Servo-arm

Elites
Death Company - 10x - Jump Packs, 1x Thunder Hammer, 9x Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
Death Company Dreadnought - Stormbolter, Meltagun
Death Company Dreadnought - Stormbolter, Meltagun

Flyers
Stormraven Gunship - Twin AC, Twin HB, Stormstrikes
Stormraven Gunship - Twin AC, Twin HB, Stormstrikes

Running 1 Techmarine, 5 man Assault Squad, and a Death Co Dread in each of the Stormravens. Lemartes and the Death Co jump marines in reserve.

Why a hand flamer on the librarian ? Its useless. 6" range, D3 shots and S3, thats pathetic. A stormbolter is 2 pts. has 24" range, 4 guaranteed shots at 12" and S4. You should give the techmarines a better gun, otherwise you are wasting their BS 2+. Boltguns are a must have on DC. They arrive and can fire twice as many shots, for free. You can fire bolt pistols in CC, but some of the DC are probably dead by then, so even less shots.
Why 5 models with JP in a stormraven, you fly them where they should be. Why JP on them ? I would remove the JPs from the 10 model squads and put them in the stormraven. Use the saved points for better DC equipment, or guns on the techmarines.

 p5freak wrote:
Why a hand flamer on the librarian ? Its useless.

Because I had 1 point left and threw it on there. Besides, it's been useful when I've used it. You should try it before bashing on it. It's a pistol and excellent for taking out cheap infantry. Besides, he's a Librarian, his priorities aren't shooting.

 p5freak wrote:
You should give the techmarines a better gun, otherwise you are wasting their BS 2+.

This I could actually stand behind. Alas, they're there for wound support on the dreadnoughts. Again, like the librarian, their priorities are elsewhere.

 p5freak wrote:
Boltguns are a must have on DC. They arrive and can fire twice as many shots, for free. You can fire bolt pistols in CC, but some of the DC are probably dead by then, so even less shots.

No. Just... no.

 p5freak wrote:
Why 5 models with JP in a stormraven, you fly them where they should be. Why JP on them ? I would remove the JPs from the 10 model squads and put them in the stormraven. Use the saved points for better DC equipment, or guns on the techmarines.

This is making better sense, but the mobility is why I do it. If you're not playing highly mobile BAs, then you might as well play vanilla marines. I've won so many games where I've scored so many more tactical objectives over my opponents, that it's not even worth summing the points. That's all thanks to mobility.