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Curious what everyone thinks is the best way to use the new inquisitor eisenhorn rules? What army does he fit best with?

Fluff wise he seems awesome. Competitive wise, I think he would suffer like all inquisition does, meaning he doesn't break the mold, he just does it better than a normal inquisitor would.

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I think he would work well in a small guard force with some custodies in a separate detachment. He would let the lower moral guys stay around much longer with ld 10 and is a constant threat if something charges your line for potential counter assault.

He's good if you need a generalist HQ for a soup detachment and don't wanna pay for Celestine. Seems about it so far though.

His daemonhost (+25 pts) is basically same stats as a daemon prince. He can Smite and deny twice... pretty good for a lot of Imperial armies.

 Primark G wrote:
His daemonhost (+25 pts) is basically same stats as a daemon prince

Only in narrative play.
His 'lesser' form suffers from inflicting just one wound per hit with modest accuracy - good for around 2 dead marines when near enough to get his +1s and respectable for the low cost combined with his general toughness.

Not a bad addition for anyone who runs blob-ish units like arco flagellants.

I didn’t see here it says narrative only.

 Primark G wrote:
I didn’t see here it says narrative only.

The full daemon prince form was mentioned in the warhammer community article.

There is a datasheet for Cherubael in the visitor comments section of the 40k facebook page which includes the modified daemonhost line and a 'khorne prince with talons' line for narrative play for comparison - the latter would make quite a mess of most characters.

You have to pay reinforcement points to use the daemonhost in match play.

 Primark G wrote:
You have to pay reinforcement points to use the daemonhost in match play.

Considering that the daemonhost is "okay" (and not "bad" like the regular daemonhost) I don't see it making the table that much in matched games.

Eisenhorn will likely be on the table to help deny powers, smite (maybe Dominate as well since that is the fluffiest option from the powers for him), and give his leadership out to lower leadership units (like Conscripts).

That may change once we get a codex, but right now the Inquisition doesn't bring a lot to the table and has to go full soup just to build a non-Vanguard army. Eisenhorn isn't bad, but considering how limited the army is, it's not going to do much to change up how things play.

That said, it's nice to see a Xenos character again (since they removed the ones without models after the Chapter House thing).

He’s ok... he’s basically a 2 power psyker for 100pts (but his power choices kinda suck)
His str3 ap-3 dam 1, 4x atk, 2+ to hit sword isn’t going to scare anyone and while his 4+ mortal wound to vehicles grenade is cool it’s 6in isn’t going to be reliable. He does have his quarry which allows reroll a of 1 for hit and wound vs xenos. But he’s overall blah and basically a smite and ld buffer.

The only reason to take him is to have him follow around his demonhost who you also have to pay for (25pts) but is competitively priced.
At str6 toughness 6 wound 5, 4 atk, and +1 to hit (3+), +1 to wound, +1 invul (4++)
Doing 4x str6 -3ap dam1 and a str8 assault 1 -1ap shooting atk that does 3 dam on 5/6 to wound roll. Plus the random demonhost effect. It’s a nice demonhost rules for the cost however If Eisenhorn dies so does the demonhost and Eisenhorn desperately needs an invuln save to not die so easily. If Eisenhorn had a better selection of psychic powers I’d say it’s a decent 125 pt unit with Eisenhorn buffing the demonhost. As he is now he is only useful for narrative games. I don’t see a roll for these 2 models in most armies especially since the demonhost model isn’t even sold anymore.

That said I’m still buying it.

How I would use him is a leadership buffer until you can get him in range to start smiting and summon his demonhost to act as a damage sponge for Eisenhorn and potentially combat lock a unit. It’s not that cherubael is going to take down many tough units but he can be annoying to kill and drop a few wounds onto another unit for 25pts.

I got my mini today. Thanks the stats summary for the DH.

For 125 points of random models, Eisenhorn and his pet Daemonhost seem quite potent to me. His Daemonhost is really durable, (T6, 5w, 4++, has a 33% chance of fully healing every turn, makes for a tough nut to crack without dedicated fire), they're both pretty deadly in close combat and capable of fighting a wide variety of targets, (Both having access to S6 and Ap-3, though for the Host it's S6 AP-3 D1, and for Eisenhorn it's either S3 AP-3 D3 or S6 AP-1 D3,) Smite access and other powers are always nice, and psychic denial is a good thing to have on hand. Oh, plus Mortal Wounds on vehicles is nifty.

Problem is, as has been noted, he lacks a real role in a larger army. He's not beefy enough to be valuable just for his stats, he doesn't provide significant enough buffs to other Imperium units, and you can't take him while also getting detachment bonuses for codex factions.
He's fine in a soup detachment, but only if you're already planning on taking a soup list. He's not Celestine, it's never going to be worth turning a detachment into Soup just to bring him along.

I might try running him with two Imperial Psykers, though, for the Smites and the lols.

Waaaghpower wrote:
He's fine in a soup detachment, but only if you're already planning on taking a soup list. He's not Celestine, it's never going to be worth turning a detachment into Soup just to bring him along.

A separate inquisition detachment is very cheap to field though. 22 points gets you two meatshields with the bodyguard rule and three cenobyte servitors - not a bad price for an extra command point and the acolytes can be swapped out if desired for some form of bodyguard.