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In the case of Daemonic posssession, and aside from wrecking the person or machine "infected," do the tech-priests have countermeasures for dealing with this?

I know that at least some places, so-called "Techsorcists" exist -> http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Techsorcists

And other bits from the Fluff about a Tech-Priest cleansing a Machine or a Person of Daemonic Taint?


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So... does that essentially mean, I could stick -1- "Chaos Demon Computer Virus" into a Forge World and expect a Full Takeover/Transformation into a Hell Forge Dark Mechanicus World in a day or two?

ie: Except for those Techsorcists, the Mechanicus have no means of warding off Daemonic Influence and are as helpless as the general Imperial Population against them - unless someone blows the whistle to summon the Inquisition/Grey Knights/etc?

From what we know, machine-spirits can be influenced in some way by tech-priests, and machine-spirits can probably resist daemonic influence, which would make possessing something Mechanicus more difficult. Though it’s a bit of a stretch, if the Omnissiah (whatever it really is) is a benign being with influence in the warp then it could protect aligned machines from possession. I think the main defense against daemonic possession they have is just dealing with the physical problem the best they can (isolating and destroying possessed gear) and the and applying purity seals+prayer until it stops acting evil.

There was a short story about a land raider that had been captured, a chaos one, they had to chain it down until they could re consicrate it.

There's a Gaunts Ghosts tie-in short about a planet used as a dumping ground for captured war machines until they can get round to them (The Headstone and the Hammerstone Kings by Matthew Farrer).

Ilanna Pavelka (one of the AdMech characters in the 'Of Mars' trilogy) has been sanctioned for 'killing' Machine Spirits.

 gnome_idea_what wrote:
From what we know, machine-spirits can be influenced in some way by tech-priests, and machine-spirits can probably resist daemonic influence, which would make possessing something Mechanicus more difficult.

And here we have "Edition creep" coming in.

Because - what is a Machine-Spirit really? (Might make this a whole thread actually)

We know its Not Sentient AI....

But would

Alexa be considered a "Machine-Spirit?"

Or are Machine-Spirits actual Warp Entities?

if the Omnissiah (whatever it really is) is a benign being with influence in the warp then it could protect aligned machines from possession.

Well as of the HH novels, its heavily implied at this point that the Omnissiah is in fact the Emperor.

A large chunk of this has to do with terminology though.

The Mechanicus has always believed in the Machine God (although -what- that exactly mean is up for debate), which as of late in the Real World has been heavily implied to be either a Shard of the Void Dragon or the Void Dragon itself, beaten by the Emperor back in the 14th century and somehow placed on Mars by him.

The Omnissiah as an Idea doesn't seem to be have been part of the Original Belief system of the Mechanicus. It would explain why someone like Koriel Zeth (from the Mechanicum novel in 31K) could worship "Knowledge alone" and lack a belief in the Omnissiah or the Machine God.

In fact the whole prophecy of the Omnissiah seems to have poofed into existence at some point prior to the Great Crusade....

If you read the Mechanicum novel, you'll notice how the Emperor's arrival seemed Perfect.......too perfect.

The Way He's Dressed, the Way he Arrives on Mars, the Miracles he Pulls Off - the Emperor literally hits all the points on the Prophecy of the Omnissiah like a man ticking off check boxes.



The Emperor is the Omnissiah.....perhaps because he Invented that Role and Inserted it into the Mechanicus system of Belief centuries before he made an official arrival on Mars.....