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From what I understand the sniper rule let's you shot at a character regardless of another unit being closer to the attacker.

But with the two Geminae being in the same unit as her. Could the defending Saint Celestine player assign the wounds over to the Geminae?

Euclid Ymor wrote:
From what I understand the sniper rule let's you shot at a character regardless of another unit being closer to the attacker.

But with the two Geminae being in the same unit as her. Could the defending Saint Celestine player assign the wounds over to the Geminae?

Celestine and her Geminae are a 3 model unit, all with the CHARACTER Keyword. It's not like other Characters with Bodyguards where they are separate units. Snipers don't get to choose who to allocate wounds to, it just lets them shoot CHARACTERS. The defender will always assign the wounds unless otherwise stated.

Just wanted to make sure that was the case.

Thank you for the help

They are not a unit so the sniper can select any character in range.

 Primark G wrote:
They are not a unit so the sniper can select any character in range.

The datasheet clearly lists Celestine and her Geminae as being part of a single unit.
CHARACTER is a keyword, and it applies to the whole datasheet. While it most often applies to single model units, there is no such requirement, so Celestine + Geminae is a single unit in which each model has the CHARACTER keyword (and associated rules), as BCB said.
The "sniper rule" only bypass the rules for targetting, not the rules for wound allocation.

 Primark G wrote:
They are not a unit so the sniper can select any character in range.

They very clearly are one unit.

Yeah. Don't ask us why Celestine is the only model in the whole of 8th edition to actually be a multi model character unit.

It flies in the face of their design philosophy for the entire rest of the edition, and all the crazy things like breaking command squads up into seperate models however strange the resulting units might be.

It creates weird situations too, like that one guardsman left alive in that squad stops you shooting at the giant angel and her two friends because he's closer even though she outnumbers them three to one.
But BCB is correct.

It also interacts weirdly with Warlord. Warlord says pick a model, so if you give her the 6+ FNP then Celestine gets the FNP, but the Geminae don't even though they're 1 unit. It also creates that fun loophole where the Geminae are able to bring back Celestine a third, fourth, fifth, etc time using the AoF, if you can pull it off, which is unlikely.

There are other units with more than one model and different saves. It's odd, but not unique.

 deviantduck wrote:
It also interacts weirdly with Warlord. Warlord says pick a model, so if you give her the 6+ FNP then Celestine gets the FNP, but the Geminae don't even though they're 1 unit. It also creates that fun loophole where the Geminae are able to bring back Celestine a third, fourth, fifth, etc time using the AoF, if you can pull it off, which is unlikely.

You are correct but with a side note. You cannot use her Geminae to bring her back when you use her Miraculous Intervention rule and fail as it specifies you remove the remaining Geminae. (I know you weren't saying you could but wanted to make sure no one read that and thought you could revive Celestine with the Geminae if she failed her revive)


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 JohnnyHell wrote:
There are other units with more than one model and different saves. It's odd, but not unique.

Yeah, take a look at a deathwatch kill team. It can be messy to play.

Another minor question about Celestine and her Geminae real quick.

From her Amour of Saint Katherine, does she need to be alive to give them the 4++ or do they always have it?

Euclid Ymor wrote:
Another minor question about Celestine and her Geminae real quick.

From her Amour of Saint Katherine, does she need to be alive to give them the 4++ or do they always have it?

I would say that they lose it, but you can easily argue that even if she dies they are still "her" unit.