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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/08 13:53:30
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/08 14:02:53
	     Subject: Creating the effect of "void" or absence of light. | 
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						|   Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
 
 
 
 
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									You could always give Vantablack a try, if you've got money to burn.  Look at some of the pics and videos of that stuff, it may give you some ideas.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/08 14:09:15
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/08 14:38:16
	     Subject: Creating the effect of "void" or absence of light. | 
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						|   Junior Officer with Laspistol
 
 
 
 
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									It is a cool idea, but achieving it would serve to eliminate the details on your miniature, which runs contrary to normal painting techniques. Like proper camouflage, you wind up obfuscating the details rather than enhancing them.
 My best suggestion would be to try black base with midnight blue as the "highlight". You could then try osl techniques but make things darker with midnight blue as the cast colour. You'll need a largish base that has "normal" light levels at the outer edge, with darkened base close to the shaman. The light at the outside provides the contrast to show the darkness.
 
 If he has bits, like a staff or something, that would be outside of his darkness bubble, make sure to keep them at standard light levels.
 
 Please post a pic here, so we can see how it turns out!
 
 I figured out what I'm trying to suggest. Make the model look like it is illuminated by moonlight, while everything around it is daylight.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/08 14:48:08
	     Subject: Creating the effect of "void" or absence of light. | 
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									Already covered. Interesting problem.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/08 15:00:55
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/08 22:19:18
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									Tuukuutuu wrote:I have had a look at Vantablack paint, but I was under the impression it wasn't for retail at the moment?
  Correct. Although you can get a very close equivalent from Culturehustle. 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/09 05:53:03
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/09 14:10:46
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 Can confirm. It's the one I alluded to earlier. I've not got Black 2.0 yet, so I can't comment on that, but I've got Black 1.5 and it's good. This is the more refined version so it should be better.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/09 15:00:39
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						|   Junior Officer with Laspistol
 
 
 
 
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									Does this stuff give the "black hole" effect, for real? Like, if you paint it on tin foil it looks like a hole to nothing?
 That's amazing, and if true I very much want a bottle.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/09 15:21:14
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									Black 2.0 seems to be the closest to vantablack that's presently retail available. Apparently vantablack itself isn't so much painted as it is manufactured in order to vertically align the carbon nano-tubes, there was a spray acrylic brand named vantablack that used randomly aligned nanotubes but that was scooped up in some exclusive rights deal. 
    Should be interesting, at least. Though you've got your work cut out for you making it look like anything other than 'just primed a minute ago'.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/09 15:24:55
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									Handy for gun barrels. No need to drill.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/09 16:08:47
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									I have a Black 2.0 fighter that's been curing for a couple days (they warn you it takes 48 hours to get the full effect). I'm not impressed so far, but I'm taking pictures tonight at my FLGS to give people an idea of what to expect. Bookmarking so I remember to add the pics here.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/09 16:38:49
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									Have you considered simply washing out the colors to greyscale?  The base in particular could have colors along the edges, but so could anything he's carrying, with a 'fade' not to black per se, but simply the absence of color.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/09 16:41:35
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									 Grimtuff wrote: Tuukuutuu wrote:I have had a look at Vantablack paint, but I was under the impression it wasn't for retail at the moment?
  Correct. Although you can get a very close equivalent from Culturehustle. 
  Unless you're Anish Kapoor, in which case git outta here, you can't have none
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/09 20:09:26
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									 Captain Joystick wrote: Black 2.0 seems to be the closest to vantablack that's presently retail available. Apparently vantablack itself isn't so much painted as it is manufactured in order to vertically align the carbon nano-tubes
  Seems that way, their website also mentions that the stuff must avoid contact with fingers, moisture and dust to remain intact.
 
  You can request samples of items with a vantablack coating on, the cheapest being about $300.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/09 20:18:58
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									Fictional wrote: Captain Joystick wrote: Black 2.0 seems to be the closest to vantablack that's presently retail available. Apparently vantablack itself isn't so much painted as it is manufactured in order to vertically align the carbon nano-tubes
  Seems that way, their website also mentions that the stuff must avoid contact with fingers, moisture and dust to remain intact.   You can request samples of items with a vantablack coating on, the cheapest being about $300.
  Well there is a whole bunch of problems with vanta black for models.   it may be possible to get it on pewter.. maybe? i forget the temperature but iirc  you are basically baking on a forest of nano carbon onto the piece and the only reason it works is because of those forests and the gaps between. you couldn't touch or varnish the dang thing after it is applied and im pretty sure the temperatures required would kill any plastic or resin model too.   i needa get my hands on that black 2.0 though i need to get that classic back drop for the goblin bob ross model i just got     edit:..... oh 19$ + 9$ shipping... no thanks. 
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  Unit1126PLL wrote:  Scott-S6 wrote: And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
 Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/10 14:28:12
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									So here's the results of using Black 2.0. It pretty much looks like it had a really heavy primer added - only it keeps detail better than primer. I'm pretty disappointed. 
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     Note: The inside of the cockpit is traditional abbadon black - which is a gloss black
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 Bender wrote:* Realise that despite the way people talk, this is not a professional sport played by demi gods, but rather a game of toy soldiers played by tired, inebriated human beings.
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2018/04/10 15:00:53
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									Try creating an OSL effect - only instead of a coloured light use black.
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