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So I (necrons) was palying against my buddy (tyranids) the other day and we came across a scenario we weren't sure how to proceed with and couldn't find anything in the RB, Chapter approved or any of the faqs. I had a unit of 20 necron warriors, about half were on the ground level within a ruin with windows, and the other half on a 1st floor of a ruin. He had a trygon charge the unit of warriors in the ruin which were visible to him but according to the RB a monster without the fly keyword can only end their move on the ground floor of ruins. We played it out so the ground floor warriors faught the trygon through the window and after they all parished, the 1st floor warriors were unable to pile in as the gap between the ground floor and 1st floor was over 3 inches so we just played it as though they were no longer locked after the ground floor died. It ended up not being relevant to the outcome of the game but we were curious how to play this out for future scenarios.

Thank you for any help!

the warriors on the top floor get a pile in. They can, but don't have to, move. If they do they must end their move closer to the nearest enemy unit. That could mean moving down a floor.

 Lance845 wrote:
the warriors on the top floor get a pile in. They can, but don't have to, move. If they do they must end their move closer to the nearest enemy unit. That could mean moving down a floor.

Correct. Pile In and Consolidate are optional, and since measurements are from base to base, the Trygon can't get within 1" of the Warriors on the upper level of a ruin, since the Trygon can't traverse the upper levels.

Ok, wasnt sure since pile in is only 3" and it was 4 inch between 1st floor and ground floor. We played it as though it wasn't possible to pile in. Thanks

You use wobbly model syndrome for not being able to make the whole distance. The warriors would be considered to be 1" off the ground on their way down to the trygon and then within 1".

Why the warriors would willingly get closer to the trygon though is beyond me.

Makes sense, thank you!

 Lance845 wrote:


Why the warriors would willingly get closer to the trygon though is beyond me.

Well, they DON'T have any self-will, so that's that.

We had a similar scenario happen in the team tourney at adepticon. A baneblade assaulted a single guardsman that was on a higher tier (not ruin) so it was 2" higher than the ground the baneblade was on. The top of the baneblade's hull was within 1" of the guardsman, but the bottom of the baneblade was 2". The judge ruled the baneblade couldn't assault it and it actually caused the loss of the game.

That TO was an idiot. Baneblades being a model without a base measure to and from the model. The bane blade could assault from its gun barrel if it wanted to.

Also on a side note most GW terrain uses 3 inches between floors so you can go down 3 inches, end of phase another 3 which could get them closer. You might want to tie it up for a couple turns.

To shouldn't have been needed, as the rule is incredibly clear in the 8 pages of core rules.

nosferatu1001 wrote:
To shouldn't have been needed, as the rule is incredibly clear in the 8 pages of core rules.

True, but the game was kind of heated and hinged on the baneblade wiping the lone guardsman off a point so they weren't going to let a paltry thing like RAW get in the way of a good argument and TO intervention.