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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/16 16:42:05
Subject: No-go zones in Germany?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The Bild is a daily newspaper focused on "shock" articles, with headlines that they know will result in people picking up the paper. A poll of Bild readers will get the same result as a poll of any random xenophobic right-wing group.
As for the admission by Merkel that no-go groups exist, it requires some logical leaps to come up with that conclusion. When the topic of "no-go zones" first became a thing, it was described as areas where police are refusing to go and law enforcement was non-existent. The "no-go" was for police.
What Merkel is talking about is "there are areas where people are afraid to go to". Which is different than "there are areas where police are refusing to enforce the law". If people are scared of an area, either because of actual criminal statistics or bigotry, that is one thing. But that doesn't equal some sort of admission that Germany has areas that are under total control of immigrant Muslim populations, where Sharia law rules the neighborhoods and German police are refusing to enter to enforce real laws.
Edit: the actual Merkel interview, just for transparency:
https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Ich-kann-Erfolg-sehr-gut-teilen-article20309326.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/17 09:47:44
Subject: No-go zones in Germany?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Merkel’s own statement never really envoke the “no police” definitions, and leans much more heavily on the “people don’t feel safe” definition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/17 09:48:33
Subject: Re:No-go zones in Germany?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Kroem wrote:It was weird when I went to Frankfurt. You think of it as a rich, trendy city but the main train station was full of crack heads and immigrants and right next to the red light district!
Certainly not a no-go area, but enough to make most middle class people distinctly uncomfortable I'd warrant!
Sounds like a regular Hauptbahnhof to me!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/17 21:49:56
Subject: No-go zones in Germany?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That's how my old Hauptbahnhof in Nuernberg was. Small collection of winos roaming the station, faint odor of pee in the tunnels leading to the tracks, collection of Assi's near the entrance leading down to the subway, homeless people sleeping in the halls of the subway near the Salvation Army office.
And then a couple hundred normal folks, tourists, businessman just doing their thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/17 22:52:49
Subject: No-go zones in Germany?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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If I remember right, some of the professional beggars are from Eastern Europe and are part of begging groups. I wouldn't be surprised if they have a handler that collects from them each day, like a begging pimp.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/19 15:07:31
Subject: No-go zones in Germany?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I think it would help if we define what a no-go area is supposed to be.
When “no-go area” first became a thing, the definition was “an area full of Muslims, where Sharia law is supreme, and civil authorities refuse to enter to enforce civil laws”.
If that is the definition, then there are none in Germany.
If we want to use the water down the term to mean “areas where people feel uncomfortable or unsafe”, then of course there are areas like that. They have been there for decades long before the last round of refugees came to Germany. We had them there when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s.
But we really should use a racially and emotionally charged term to describe something else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/06 17:38:21
Subject: No-go zones in Germany?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Well, if we keep on changing the definition of a no-go zione, we can necro all kind of threads and claim they exist.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/06 18:12:09
Subject: No-go zones in Germany?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That’s not the definition that has been used, especially in context of immigration.
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