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I find it mildly amusing to see these threads full of people who deride competitive players for ruining 40k, yet at the same time, they're more than happy to reap the learnings of a group which is focused on exploiting powerful units.

"I'm not a competitive player, I just take competitive units and crush people in my casual games."

the_scotsman wrote:

 Marmatag wrote:
I find it mildly amusing to see these threads full of people who deride competitive players for ruining 40k, yet at the same time, they're more than happy to reap the learnings of a group which is focused on exploiting powerful units.

"I'm not a competitive player, I just take competitive units and crush people in my casual games."

I think competitive players as a rule vastly overestimate how hard it was for them to figure out those "learnings".

Then why discuss a meta at all?