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I am trying to pick between two lists for a local 40k meetup. Now I know they are not the best but due to the size of my collection+current loadouts due to most of my stuff having been gotten on the 2nd hand market,so I am forced to make some compromises, otherwise for example I wouldn't have taken incinerators and they would all have falchions .


1st list:
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [24 PL, 448pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Regimental Doctrine: Millitarum Tempestus

+ HQ +

Lord Commissar [4 PL, 39pts]: Plasma pistol, Power sword

Tempestor Prime [3 PL, 45pts]: Chainsword, Tempestus Command Rod

+ Troops +

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 74pts]
. 2x Scion: 2x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Bolt pistol, Chainsword

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 74pts]
. 2x Scion: 2x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Bolt pistol, Chainsword

Militarum Tempestus Scions [5 PL, 84pts]
. 3x Scion: 3x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Bolt pistol, Chainsword

+ Dedicated Transport +

Taurox Prime [6 PL, 132pts]: Taurox Battle Cannon, Two Autocannons

++ Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Adeptus Ministorum) [22 PL, 408pts] ++

+ HQ +

Celestine [14 PL, 250pts]: Celestine, 2x Geminae Superia

+ Troops +

Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 56pts]
. 2x Battle Sister
. Battle Sister w/ Special or Heavy Weapon: Storm bolter
. Battle Sister w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Sister Superior: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

+ Fast Attack +

Seraphim Squad [4 PL, 102pts]
. 2x Seraphim
. Seraphim Superior: Plasma pistol, Power sword
. Seraphim w/ Special Weapons: 2x Inferno Pistols
. Seraphim w/ Special Weapons: 2x Inferno Pistols

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) [63 PL, 1137pts] ++

+ HQ +

Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [14 PL, 275pts]: 4: First to the Fray, Dreadfist, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword, Gate of Infinity, Warlord

+ Elites +

Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 185pts]: Astral Aim, Missile Launcher, Twin Lascannon

+ Fast Attack +

Interceptor Squad [16 PL, 277pts]: Hammerhand
. Grey Knight (Incinerator): Incinerator
. Grey Knight (Psilencer): Psilencer
. 7x Interceptor (Falchions): 7x Storm Bolter
. Interceptor Justicar: Nemesis Daemon Hammer, Storm bolter

Interceptor Squad [16 PL, 262pts]: Sanctuary
. Grey Knight (Incinerator): Incinerator
. 2x Interceptor (Halberd): 2x Storm Bolter
. 6x Interceptor (Sword): 6x Storm Bolter
. Interceptor Justicar: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Interceptor Squad [8 PL, 138pts]: Vortex of Doom
. 4x Interceptor (Halberd): 4x Storm Bolter
. Interceptor Justicar: Nemesis Daemon Hammer, Storm bolter

++ Total: [109 PL, 1993pts] ++

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2nd list:
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [22 PL, 402pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Regimental Doctrine: Millitarum Tempestus

+ HQ +

Lord Commissar [4 PL, 39pts]: Plasma pistol, Power sword

Tempestor Prime [3 PL, 45pts]: Chainsword, Tempestus Command Rod

+ Troops +

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 62pts]
. 3x Scion: 3x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Bolt pistol, Chainsword

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 62pts]
. 3x Scion: 3x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Bolt pistol, Chainsword

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 62pts]
. 3x Scion: 3x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Bolt pistol, Chainsword

+ Dedicated Transport +

Taurox Prime [6 PL, 132pts]: Taurox Battle Cannon, Two Autocannons

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) [95 PL, 1596pts] ++

+ HQ +

Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [14 PL, 275pts]: 4: First to the Fray, Dreadfist, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword, Gate of Infinity, Warlord

+ Elites +

Apothecary [5 PL, 103pts]: Curiass of Sacrifice, Gate of Infinity, Nemesis Daemon Hammer

Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 185pts]: Astral Aim, Missile Launcher, Twin Lascannon

+ Fast Attack +

Interceptor Squad [16 PL, 277pts]: Hammerhand
. Grey Knight (Incinerator): Incinerator
. Grey Knight (Psilencer): Psilencer
. 7x Interceptor (Falchions): 7x Storm Bolter
. Interceptor Justicar: Nemesis Daemon Hammer, Storm bolter

Interceptor Squad [16 PL, 225pts]: Sanctuary
. 2x Interceptor (Halberd): 2x Storm Bolter
. 6x Interceptor (Sword): 6x Storm Bolter
. Interceptor Justicar: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Interceptor Squad [16 PL, 175pts]: Vortex of Doom
. Grey Knight (Incinerator): Incinerator
. 4x Interceptor (Halberd): 4x Storm Bolter
. Interceptor Justicar: Nemesis Daemon Hammer, Storm bolter

+ Heavy Support +

Land Raider [19 PL, 356pts]: Twin Heavy Bolter, 2x Twin Lascannon

++ Total: [117 PL, 1998pts] ++

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The idea of these lists is using the Interceptors and GMDK for alpha strike, split the scions between deep strike on the 2nd turn or protect the backfield.

The main difference between these lists is the presence of the sister detachment, by experience Celestine can be in the enemy deployment with the Seraphims on turn 1 thanks to the acts of faith, adding more power to the alpha strike, however I feel that I lack anti-tank when I do that, I always struggle with high toughness multi wound units. Furthermore won't have any big things for the high AP enemy units to hit, which means my interceptors will be quickly vaporized by lascanons and such.
The 2nd list has a land raider instead, who I keep hearing is sub-optimal but it's the only thing I own that would fix the problems I mentioned in the 1st list.
There are other differences like more plasma scions in the 1st list or an apothecary with relic in the 2nd, but I think these are minor.

Give the Apothecary a weapon relic, since he can already heal himself. Soul Glaive + Hammerhand makes him a baby Draigo


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Also, if you have a Tempestor Prime, take a Command Swuad! Their plasma concentration is a more efficient use of orders

 Elric Greywolf wrote:
Give the Apothecary a weapon relic, since he can already heal himself. Soul Glaive + Hammerhand makes him a baby Draigo

I might consider it, I put the cuirass since not always I manage to get him into melee (I am on a very shooty tau meta) I have so far tried to make it more survivable

 Elric Greywolf wrote:
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Also, if you have a Tempestor Prime, take a Command Squad! Their plasma concentration is a more efficient use of orders

True enough, the main reason I haven't done that is points really, I don't find any other place where I can get some except perhaps cutting the Taurox