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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/12 01:31:02
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Kabals - Mechanized Mandrakes Mortal Wound Bomb
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Screaming Shining Spear
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This list is looking to push a multi-faceted, balanced attack, with air, ranged, mid-ranged, and melee elements allowing me to fight the opponent on a number of axis, and naturally have my army spread across the whole board for convenient access to objectives. The list also has a nice mortal wound sub-theme between a large number of mandrakes and bombers. The disintegrator cannons and dark scythes will be putting in work on vehicles, hence why there is only five blasters in the list. Three disintegrator ravagers plus three voidraven bombers form the bulk of the anti-tank, with the blasters playing cleanup. Your anti-infantry comes in the form of a medium amount of poison between the four venoms plus cargo, the three bombs, and 29 mandrakes to wreak havoc starting on turn 2. The disintegrator cannons are excellent at pulling double duty on your TEQ equivalents, and mandrake baleblasts are surprisingly effective as well. The mandrakes aren't the sturdiest, but with a 5++ and 6+ FnP and -1 to hit them, an overwhelming number of them, 29, as well as must deal with targets around them in the form of ravagers and bombers, I think they can do quite well on turns 2 and 3, it certainly doesn't hurt that they come in turn 2 natively re rolling charges. Going for a re roll hits and wounds of 1 bubble around the warlord archon who is parked with the ravagers and will hopefully effect them the whole game.
Battalion, Spearhead & Air Wing Detachments 10 CP
<Battalion Detachment – Kabal of the Poisoned Tongue>
HQ – Archon W/ Blaster & Husk Blade
HQ – Archon W/ Blaster & Husk Blade
Transport – Venom w/ Twin Splinter Rifle, Splinter Cannon & Blade Vanes
Troops – 5x Kabalite Warriors w/ Blaster
Transport – Venom w/ Twin Splinter Rifle, Splinter Cannon & Blade Vanes
Troops – 5x Kabalite Warriors w/ Blaster
Transport – Venom w/ Twin Splinter Rifle, Splinter Cannon & Blade Vanes
Troops – 5x Kabalite Warriors w/ Blaster
Transport – Venom w/ Twin Splinter Rifle, Splinter Cannon & Blade Vanes
Elites – 9x Mandrakes w/ Baleblasts & Glimmersteel Blades
Elites – 10x Mandrakes w/ Baleblasts & Glimmersteel Blades
Elites – 10x Mandrakes w/ Baleblasts & Glimmersteel Blades
<Spearhead Detachment – Kabal of the Black Heart>
HQ – Archon w/ Splinter Pistol, Husk Blade & Writ of the Living Muse (Warlord: Labyrinthine Cunning)
Heavy Support – Ravager w/ 3x Disintegrator Cannons & Blade Vanes
Heavy Support – Ravager w/ 3x Disintegrator Cannons & Blade Vanes
Heavy Support – Ravager w/ 3x Disintegrator Cannons, Blade Vanes & Phantasm Grenade Launcher
<Air Wing Detachment – Kabal of the Black Heart >
Flyer – Voidraven Bomber w/ 2x Dark Scythes & Voidraven Missiles
Flyer – Voidraven Bomber w/ 2x Dark Scythes & Voidraven Missiles
Flyer – Voidraven Bomber w/ 2x Dark Scythes & Voidraven Missiles
Possible changes could include dropping the 9 man mandrake unit, it's 144 points, if I dropped it I could add another warrior/venom with some points to spare.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2018/05/12 09:35:25
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/12 12:42:30
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Kabals - Mechanized Mandrakes Mortal Wound Bomb
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss
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Why the poisoned tongue? If you look for the re-rolls on poisoned shots I think the flayed skull bonus could be more effective with the units you listed. But also the obsidian rose buff in order to have a better range for blasters and rapid fire weapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/12 13:09:06
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Kabals - Mechanized Mandrakes Mortal Wound Bomb
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Blackie wrote:Why the poisoned tongue? If you look for the re-rolls on poisoned shots I think the flayed skull bonus could be more effective with the units you listed. But also the obsidian rose buff in order to have a better range for blasters and rapid fire weapons.
Honestly I considered both of those other Kabals as well, and I think there is a good argument for each. I went with the poisoned tongue just to up the efficiency of the bulk of the shots coming from the detachment, which are poison, but honestly I'd be happy with any of the three discussed obsessions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/12 14:50:40
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Kabals - Mechanized Mandrakes Mortal Wound Bomb
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hi,
i like your list and i consider to start Dark Eladr with a very similar one, but i have 3 Dark Eldar Reaper instead of the Warriors in Venom.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/05/12 15:45:14
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/12 16:19:42
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Kabals - Mechanized Mandrakes Mortal Wound Bomb
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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I'd drop the 9x Mandrakes for more variety.
Scourges come to my mind.
Fast moving and deadly.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/12 16:25:45
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Kabals - Mechanized Mandrakes Mortal Wound Bomb
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Screaming Shining Spear
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wuestenfux wrote:I'd drop the 9x Mandrakes for more variety.
Scourges come to my mind.
Fast moving and deadly.
Yeah thats a good idea, scourges were one of the units I was eyeing up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/12 16:32:07
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Kabals - Mechanized Mandrakes Mortal Wound Bomb
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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peteralmo wrote: wuestenfux wrote:I'd drop the 9x Mandrakes for more variety.
Scourges come to my mind.
Fast moving and deadly.
Yeah thats a good idea, scourges were one of the units I was eyeing up.
Consider the local meta when you choose their weapons.
They have excellent weapons to choose from.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/12 16:38:56
Subject: Re:[2000] - Dark Eldar - Kabals - Mechanized Mandrakes Mortal Wound Bomb
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Screaming Shining Spear
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I do like this list a bit better, this has the scourges going with blasters and an extra guy for an ablative wound, costs exactly 144 points for a 1 to 1 swap with the nine mandrakes. With the four extra blasters I have enough now, nine in total, to have them be an actual threat to a more mechanized list, this can sometimes allow the ravagers to not have to pull anti-tank duty. I like the disintegrator cannons a lot, and I think they're at there best when being used on a versatile selection of targets.
Battalion, Spearhead & Air Wing Detachments 10 CP
<Battalion Detachment – Kabal of the Poisoned Tongue>
HQ – Archon W/ Blaster & Husk Blade
HQ – Archon W/ Blaster & Husk Blade
Transport – Venom w/ Twin Splinter Rifle, Splinter Cannon & Blade Vanes
Troops – 5x Kabalite Warriors w/ Blaster
Transport – Venom w/ Twin Splinter Rifle, Splinter Cannon & Blade Vanes
Troops – 5x Kabalite Warriors w/ Blaster
Transport – Venom w/ Twin Splinter Rifle, Splinter Cannon & Blade Vanes
Troops – 5x Kabalite Warriors w/ Blaster
Transport – Venom w/ Twin Splinter Rifle, Splinter Cannon & Blade Vanes
Fast Attack – 6x Scourges w/ 4x Blasters & Power Lance
Elites – 10x Mandrakes w/ Baleblasts & Glimmersteel Blades
Elites – 10x Mandrakes w/ Baleblasts & Glimmersteel Blades
<Spearhead Detachment – Kabal of the Black Heart>
HQ – Archon w/ Splinter Pistol, Husk Blade & Writ of the Living Muse (Warlord: Labyrinthine Cunning)
Heavy Support – Ravager w/ 3x Disintegrator Cannons & Blade Vanes
Heavy Support – Ravager w/ 3x Disintegrator Cannons & Blade Vanes
Heavy Support – Ravager w/ 3x Disintegrator Cannons, Blade Vanes & Phantasm Grenade Launcher
<Air Wing Detachment – Kabal of the Black Heart>
Flyer – Voidraven Bomber w/ 2x Dark Scythes & Voidraven Missiles
Flyer – Voidraven Bomber w/ 2x Dark Scythes & Voidraven Missiles
Flyer – Voidraven Bomber w/ 2x Dark Scythes & Voidraven Missiles
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/05/12 16:52:31
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/12 16:40:10
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Kabals - Mechanized Mandrakes Mortal Wound Bomb
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Looks good.
But Scourges are FA, arent they?
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/12 16:52:18
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Kabals - Mechanized Mandrakes Mortal Wound Bomb
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Yes they are, typo on my part, thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/13 07:02:34
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Kabals - Mechanized Mandrakes Mortal Wound Bomb
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss
Italy
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I'm not sure about scourges, you don't need another anti tank tool. Maybe a unit with shredders to handle infantries since poisoned shots are never enough to counter hordes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/13 07:58:44
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Kabals - Mechanized Mandrakes Mortal Wound Bomb
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Blackie wrote:I'm not sure about scourges, you don't need another anti tank tool. Maybe a unit with shredders to handle infantries since poisoned shots are never enough to counter hordes.
Also reasonable, certainly meta dependent.
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