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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/15 20:29:07
Subject: [1500] - Space Wolves
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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Hi all,
I am looking to build a reasonable 1500pt Space Wolf Army with everything I have available to me right now, plus a few other troops and conversion bits to be bought in.
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [92 PL, 1498pts] ++
+ HQ +
Harald Deathwolf [10 PL, 188pts]: Saga of the Warrior Born, Warlord
Wolf Guard Battle Leader [6 PL, 99pts]: Jump Packs, Storm shield, Thunder hammer
Wolf Priest [6 PL, 104pts]: Jump Packs, Plasma pistol
+ Troops +
Grey Hunters [8 PL, 113pts]
. Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Chainsword
. 3x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol
. Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt Pistol, Plasma gun
. Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Combi-plasma, Frost sword
Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Bolt rifles, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant
Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Bolt rifles, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant
+ Elites +
Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 111pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant, Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher
Wolf Guard [10 PL, 200pts]: Jump Packs
. Wolf Guard: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Wolf Guard: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Wolf Guard: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Wolf Guard: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
Wolf Guard [20 PL, 204pts]: Jump Packs
. Wolf Guard: Frost axe, Storm bolter
. Wolf Guard: Frost axe, Storm bolter
. Wolf Guard: Frost axe, Storm bolter
. Wolf Guard: Frost axe, Storm bolter
. Wolf Guard: Frost axe, Storm shield
. Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Combi-plasma, Power fist
+ Fast Attack +
Fenrisian Wolves [2 PL, 30pts]: 5x Fenrisian Wolf
+ Heavy Support +
Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: Plasma Incinerator
. 4x Hellblaster
. Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol
Whirlwind [6 PL, 104pts]: Whirlwind vengeance launcher
++ Total: [92 PL, 1498pts] ++
Created with BattleScribe
I currently have a 10 man pack waiting to be put together, which would form the basis for the 5 man Wolf Guard squad and most of the GH squad, with another pack being bought to make the other 6 man WG squad and the other GH. I would then use the other figures to make up a WGBL and Wolf Priest with some conversion bits from Kromlech/Spellcrow for the stormbolters and jump packs. All in all, I reckon I can get the whole army finshed for about 40-50 GBP, which isnt a bad investment. And will give me a mobile army with a solid infantry core, with the Intercessors and Hellblasters staying home screened by the wolves, flanking the GH and Harold and then using the Agressors and Wolf Guard aggressively to swarm sections of the enemy under.
I know it is a bit light on anti tank, and there isnt much i can do about that without spending a lot more money.
Thoughts and suggestions welcome!
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Zap Brannigan -
"In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces."
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
"Rock breaks scissors. But paper covers rock, and scissors cut paper! Kiff: we have a conundrum...... Search them for paper... and bring me a rock." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/16 15:51:01
Subject: [1500] - Space Wolves
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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Hmmm. Less than 50 models more or less here.
I play an old horde of IG Valhallans at 1500 points I have over 150 models. So from my perspective nothing is really a true threat to the horde. Except those accurate Storm Bolters & Bolters.
You need ALOT more up-close light infantry killing power and NOT powerfists, plasma, thunderhammers.
Even the Whirlwind could only kill a minimal amount of Guardsman.
Ask yourself do you have too much up close anti-heavy tank? I think so if you count all those Hammers, Plasma and etc. Way too much spent on wargear.
I would maybe swap out some uber expensive wargear for super cheap storm bolters.
My strategy would be to deploy in a long wide & deep occupy my entire deployment zone. I could focus fire all my heavies into your HQ and start to break your Marines down. Attrition would be my main ally.
If you deployed all your army into one single penetration zone then you would have something of a threat, but I would just feed an infantry squad to the no man's land to be slaughtered.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/16 20:17:04
Subject: [1500] - Space Wolves
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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Fair point. I was looking at my ranged anti tank and thinking I had nothing to dish out really. I have changed my list around (And also included the fact that I have Interceptors not Agressors.. D'oh!
The following list would be achievable with a start collecting box and a few conversion pieces. And would mean breaking the turret off my Whirlwind and replacing it but hey its better than nothing right? I reckon I could get all the bits I need for sub 80 GBP and field a reasonable enough force for some casual games.
The main aim would be that the Primaris Captain sits back with the Hellblasters for that sweet re-roll, the WGBL acompanies the Wolf Guard Pack and Harold flanks with the Thunderwolves to get stuck in. Grey hunters with the Razorback to provide a small anti tank/monster threat.
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [93 PL, 1499pts] ++
+ HQ +
Harald Deathwolf [10 PL, 188pts]: Saga of the Warrior Born, Warlord
Primaris Captain [6 PL, 96pts]: Master-crafted stalker bolt rifle, Power sword
Wolf Guard Battle Leader [6 PL, 72pts]: Frost sword, Jump Packs, Storm bolter
+ Troops +
Grey Hunters [8 PL, 106pts]: 4x Chainsword
. Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Chainsword
. 3x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol
. Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt Pistol, Plasma gun
. Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Chainsword, Combi-plasma
Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Bolt rifles, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant
Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Bolt rifles, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant
+ Elites +
Wolf Guard [20 PL, 228pts]: Jump Packs
. Wolf Guard: Chainsword, Storm bolter
. Wolf Guard: Chainsword, Storm bolter
. Wolf Guard: Chainsword, Storm bolter
. Wolf Guard: Chainsword, Storm bolter
. Wolf Guard: Frost sword, Storm shield
. Wolf Guard: Frost axe, Storm shield
. Wolf Guard: Chainsword, Storm bolter
. Wolf Guard: Chainsword, Storm bolter
. Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Storm bolter, Thunder hammer
+ Fast Attack +
Fenrisian Wolves [2 PL, 30pts]: 5x Fenrisian Wolf
Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 135pts]: Assault Bolter, 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant
Thunderwolf Cavalry [8 PL, 171pts]
. Thunderwolf Cavalry: Frost sword, Storm shield
. Thunderwolf Cavalry: Frost sword, Storm shield
. Thunderwolf Cavalry Pack Leader: Frost axe, Plasma pistol
+ Heavy Support +
Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: Plasma Incinerator
. 4x Hellblaster
. Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol
+ Dedicated Transport +
Razorback [5 PL, 128pts]: Hunter-killer missile, Storm bolter, Twin lascannon
++ Total: [93 PL, 1499pts] ++
Created with BattleScribe
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Zap Brannigan -
"In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces."
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
"Rock breaks scissors. But paper covers rock, and scissors cut paper! Kiff: we have a conundrum...... Search them for paper... and bring me a rock." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/17 17:56:37
Subject: [1500] - Space Wolves
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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I don't know. From my perspective 100% of opponents force needs to attack up close in a small area and mow down infantry. I would be happy if half your force wanted to hang back and exchange fire fight.
What general rules do Wolves possess that can assist in this effort?
IMO something like 20-30 Fen. Wolves would be something to work with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/19 06:12:02
Subject: [1500] - Space Wolves
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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I like it. I myself would most likely rid of those Inceptors and opt out for something else.
If you were to remove them + Hell Blasters, I think you could get Long Fangs to sit with the captain? I believe this would bring more range to sit still, and damage output wouldn't be bad either.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/19 06:19:44
Subject: [1500] - Space Wolves
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss
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Don't bother with fen wolves, they're very lackluster. A single cyberwolf may be decent for having a cheap objective grabber or mess with enemy movement, maybe.
SW are an elite army, you'll never have tons of bodies so don't worry about that.
I'd just cut one of the HQ, the battle leader, the little wolves and also the inceptors in order to add more TWC or a unit of wulfen. Eventually bjorn as primary HQ of the army but since you already have harald, who is also quite expensive, a cheap second HQ should be a better idea. Maybe a wolf priest on jump packs.
I also prefer long fangs over hellblasters since they don't need a babysitting character to re roll the one.
Give a twin assault cannon to the razorback, it's a cheap option and anti infatry is always needed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/19 08:00:01
Subject: [1500] - Space Wolves
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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Ok thanks for the comments guys. My problem right now is that I have the contents of the DI boxset, Harald, 5x Fen Wolves, a 10 man wolf pack and a whirlwhind I am going to butcher to make into a razorback. Trying to get to 1500 points without spending loads of money is the aim, just so I can get playing with my wolves before the codex drops. If I cut the Inceptors, Fen Wolves and the WGBL I can prob fit in a pack of Wulfen. Before conversion items that would set me back around £68, which I am happy enough with. I would also have some spare bodies to add to my WG with Jump packs if I needed. That should provide lots of anti horde firepower, and some ranged anti tank in the hellblasters and the razorback. Wulfen would provide up close and personal munching power, and the TWC with Harald would be good all rounders (might even upgrade them to Frost Axes to get a better chance to wound more stuff). New list below: ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [88 PL, 1500pts] ++ + HQ + Harald Deathwolf [10 PL, 188pts]: Saga of the Warrior Born, Warlord Primaris Captain [6 PL, 96pts]: Master-crafted stalker bolt rifle, Power sword + Troops + Grey Hunters [8 PL, 105pts]: 4x Chainsword . Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Chainsword . 3x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol . Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt Pistol, Plasma gun . Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Power fist, Storm bolter Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Bolt rifles, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Bolt rifles, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant + Elites + Wolf Guard [20 PL, 231pts]: Jump Packs . Wolf Guard: Chainsword, Storm bolter . Wolf Guard: Chainsword, Storm bolter . Wolf Guard: Chainsword, Storm bolter . Wolf Guard: Chainsword, Storm shield . Wolf Guard: Frost sword, Storm shield . Wolf Guard: Frost axe, Storm shield . Wolf Guard: Chainsword, Storm bolter . Wolf Guard: Chainsword, Storm bolter . Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Storm bolter, Thunder hammer Wulfen [13 PL, 235pts] . Great frost axe . 3x Thunder hammer & Stormshield: 3x Storm Shield, 3x Thunder Hammer . 4x Wulfen . Wulfen Pack Leader: Frost claws + Fast Attack + Thunderwolf Cavalry [8 PL, 177pts] . Thunderwolf Cavalry: Frost axe, Storm shield . Thunderwolf Cavalry: Frost axe, Storm shield . Thunderwolf Cavalry Pack Leader: Frost axe, Plasma pistol + Heavy Support + Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: Plasma Incinerator . 4x Hellblaster . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol + Dedicated Transport + Razorback [5 PL, 123pts]: Hunter-killer missile, Lascannon & Twin Plasma Gun, Storm bolter ++ Total: [88 PL, 1500pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/05/19 08:01:01
Zap Brannigan -
"In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces."
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
"Rock breaks scissors. But paper covers rock, and scissors cut paper! Kiff: we have a conundrum...... Search them for paper... and bring me a rock." |
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