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I thought the most interesting part was that according to GenCon she would be doing a Q&A. Since when does she allow questions?


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 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
Do you want the honest answer? It's simple.

Tabletop gaming is full of pathetic incels that will do anything to get a peepee touch or a little booty pat. Of course they'll bend the knee to anything with two mammary glands that has a whinge. It's a community ripe for exploitation.

That, or there's just no money left for her in videogames.

Whether she's a life long gamer or not her videos are either exceptionally poor or intentionally disingenuous.

 ulgurstasta wrote:
I'm surprised that she was invited to Gencon, but it is worrisome. I have always thought that tabletop gaming was to small a industry to attract these sort of people, I might have been wrong on that it seems.

Punch "feminist 40k" into Facebook's search bar.

dosiere wrote:
Ugh, I'm not really following what's going on here. Can someone sum up for me who this is, why it has so many people arguing, and why I should care?

A woman has been invited to a gaming con. Depending on if you think GamerGate was a consumer revolt against a horribly corrupt games journalism industry and the heavy hand of progressive politics trying to force an agenda into videogames or a harassment campaign by a group of misogynists and neo nazis who want to drive women out of the industry this either means the con has invited a terrible speaker who has no place being an honoured guest or people are getting their panties in a twist about nothing because they too probably want women out of their hobby.


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 Peregrine wrote:
and the right-wing outrage machine is losing it again

I really do hate this characterization of the people that dislike her. This isn't a right vs left thing, this is progressives vs anti progressives (for lack of a better term) and the majority of Gamergate when polled fell into the liberal/central parts of the political compass. Being opposed to her and her views does not make one right wing.

I really don't wanna drag the thread down the rabbit hole of 'what was gamergate all about', but I'd just like to leave these here and say unless you describe anything anti progressive as conservative (which would be a very childish interpretation of politics) no, gamergate in general (at least not the 95 thousand member reddit group) don't have socially conservative views and while I am sure there were people who were pushed to the right by what happened it wasn't highjacked by right wingers.


Which came from: http://www.gameobjective.com/2016/11/21/no-gamergate-is-not-right-wing/
And the methodology/FAQ for the poll: https://medium.com/@Brad_Glasgow/the-gamergate-survey-and-book-methodology-and-faq-42793440c612

 Da Boss wrote:
I think you give her way too much power. She's not Sauron the Great or something.

And yet she was at the UN Women (which as I understand it is a separate organization under the UN, not the actual UN but still backed by them) talking about censoring the internet to stop online harassment.

I also think the big divide in opinions here comes down to the fact that one side will view her as having been attacked horribly with harassing comments and sent all sorts of threats and the like and so obviously the people doing that (Gamergate) are the bad guys. The other side will look at her and just see someone who stirs up controversy and claims to be the victim when it happens because c'mon, it's the internet, there's always gonna be a few trolls throwing death threats across twitter for literally any opinion anyone gives, and those people probably aren't related to gamgergate since the FBI did investigate and didn't find anything worth persuing. (IIRC I think there were also people taking the 4chan greentext about being a marine sniper with over 300 confirmed kills who'll 360 noscope you seriously.)

I am not aware of Anita ever doing this, and I doubt she would, but other big names on the progressive/anti gamergate side were caught out posting hate and threats at themselves as well from anonymous accounts.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
This video is relevant:

https://youtu.be/WxYyxC7gftg

I really don't actually see how that context makes it any different, so she's talking about systemic sexism/racism/whateverisms and you have to point all of *that* out...

Still, not the worst thing she said on that particular stage. My favourite quote from here is the one where she says she wasn't always a feminist and might have once even uttered the words 'I'm for equality but I'm not a feminist' and then describes that as 'not a high point in her life'. To me that says the 'branding' of feminism is what's important to her, not the equality that she would say feminism is trying to achieve, and that tells me all I need to know about her ideology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOmIIAact4s


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dyndraig wrote:
I wonder what the Gencon admins hoped to achieve with this, as far as I know she has no connections at all with the tabletop industry? Did they just wanna stir some controversy or was it ideologically driven?

I doubt they're actually gonna talk about her work on Betrayal at House on the Hill, I would expect she's gonna talk about her usual cultural critic stuff but directed at the tabletop industry, and I would suspect that the GenCon people weren't inviting her to stir up controversy, they probably just like her (ideology).