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Hi,

I'm currently trying to figure out how the World Eater's legion trait (Butcher's Nails) interacts with the Khorne berserkers' ability to fight twice.

Blood for the Blood God wrote:This unit can fight twice in each Fight phase, instead of only once.

Chainsword wrote:Each time the bearer fights, it can make 1 additional attack with this weapon.

This triggers "each time the bearer fights". I understand that this means that the chainsword rule would trigger twice should the bearer fight twice (due to "Blood for the Blood God").

Butcher's Nails wrote:When a unit with this trait makes a successful charge, you can make one additional attack with each of its models in the subsequent fight phase.

This allows an extra attack "in the subsequent fight phase", not "each time the bearer fights". It's therefore only 1 extra attack, no matter how many times the berserker fights. Is this interpretation correct?

I apologise in advance if this seems like a stupid question.

I'm interested in RAW, RAI, and HIWPI.

I've checked the Chaos codex FAQ / Errata, and I've searched "You Make Da Call", but no luck.

I am not sure on this one. It depends on whether you can interpret "subsequent fight phase" to mean the phase as a whole or the action of going through the steps of the phase. Why they couldn't have just said "+1 to attacks characteristic" is beyond me.

In short, both readings are "valid" (though I would tend towards the more strict reading that you only get one additional attack no matter how many times you fight, i.e. it means the phase as a whole) and you need to decide it pre-game, waiting for 2034 when GW finally stop writing rules with badgers.

Looks to me like they'd get the +1 attack for each time the Berzerkers attack. My reasoning is that they fight multiple times in the same Fight Phase, and the Butcher's Nails says "subsequent Fight Phase".

Multiple occurences of fighting do not appear to make multiple Fight Phases.

With the chainsword though, if they were armed with that and a chainaxe, would they have to use the chainsword for 1 attack at least to get the bonus chainsword attack? 1 becomes 2 with that weapon?

I'm checking because I'd rather have pistols (including plasma pistols) and the superior chainaxe attacks since they're AP-1 and Str6.

You don’t have to allocate any of your stat line Attacks to a Chainsword to get the ‘bonus’ attack. You get the bonus Chainsword attack just for possessing the Chainsword.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
You don’t have to allocate any of your stat line Attacks to a Chainsword to get the ‘bonus’ attack. You get the bonus Chainsword attack just for possessing the Chainsword.

Agreed. The wording is that having the chainsword gives you the "bonus" attack with it, and that's the only attack you have to make with the chainsword. All your other attacks can be with another weapon.

 Malathrim wrote:
Looks to me like they'd get the +1 attack for each time the Berzerkers attack. My reasoning is that they fight multiple times in the same Fight Phase, and the With the chainsword though, if they were armed with that and a chainaxe, would they have to use the chainsword for 1 attack at least to get the bonus chainsword attack? 1 becomes 2 with that weapon?

Answered in the rulebook FAQ, p7. Even uses Khorne Berzerkers as the example

 Cheexsta wrote:

 Malathrim wrote:
Looks to me like they'd get the +1 attack for each time the Berzerkers attack. My reasoning is that they fight multiple times in the same Fight Phase, and the With the chainsword though, if they were armed with that and a chainaxe, would they have to use the chainsword for 1 attack at least to get the bonus chainsword attack? 1 becomes 2 with that weapon?

Answered in the rulebook FAQ, p7. Even uses Khorne Berzerkers as the example

That answers only the Chainsword question, not the Butcher's Nails question.

I think you've answered the question. You get the benefit of the butchers nails only once, and that's on the initial round of attacks, whereas, you will always get the benefit of the chainswords. The wording of "subsequent," is highly specific here, and I don't see how there's any other way to interpret it. RAW, RAI and HIPI are all in agreement here.