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Vigo. Spain.

I dont know if theres allready a post for this. Its a spanish company, they did chaos dwarfs previously.
Ill clarify that I have no relation with this company

Im in my phone, so will try to edit this with nice pics later.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1115856510/lost-kingdom-miniatures-cuetzpal-empire/description

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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That Coatl giant dragon looks fantastic!

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I'd seen some previews on the beastsofwar website, I'm not playing any WHFBish game anymore but I might have to get a few of those, particularly the chameleon skinks
   
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These are super sweet and strike a good balance between conforming to WHFB units and adding their own flare.

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That Slann though... gods above I need some of these. Namely the cavalry. That feathered god is amazing too.... all of it really.

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Yeah these look great, only prob im skint and can only afford a couple of the heroes at mo, hopefully we can add some more in the PM as id love some of the Korxigors(sp!?) and Chameleons.

Did any one get any of their previous Chaos Dwarves and if so what are they like cast wise etc?

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I would really like some of those. I do like the aztec lizardmen trope.

The slann is a neat take for variety. Might need that for space slann some day.
   
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They look nice, but the weapons are too over scaled for my tastes.

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I don't normally like these indie kick starter models, but some of these models are pretty boss. I think I see more value in these guys as character stand-ins or as replacements for some of the LIzardmen's less solid models.

This line is also sort of funny to see as a real world example of why GW has embarked on its IP purge and moved towards things that are more defensible. This whole kickstarter is basically designed to piggy back on GW's brand.
   
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I don't know much about kickstarters except lots of people get upset with them. How come have lofty stretch goals? What happens if they are not met? Are the molds not made yet already? So if the stretch goals are not met that means you can't buy those lovely minis? Why make molds if you can't use them? I just don't understand.

Also what is this for? Do they have their own game/rule system or are we suppose to use these with other games namely Kings of War and Fantasy/Age of Sigmar?

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Those look fantastic, I may have to go in for some heroes just for painting.

   
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Wow, those are impressive! If WHFB was still a thing, I'd be sorely tempted... but some don't seem to be quite as good of a fit for AoS.

I saw mention of a Slann above, but I don't see it on the campaign page... am I just missing it?

That "chameleon skink" hero is especially awesome!

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They can be used for Kings of War as Salamanders or as part of Forces of Nature. You can also try KoW for free if so inclined.
http://www.manticgames.com/free-rules.html

I will follow this project ... I could use some lizard cavalry, and ideally some large cavalry. (Edit. Their knights seem like they'd do as KoW large cav ... The mounts are large enough to pass.)

As for the "Not-a-Slann" they might mean the Supreme Sorcerer at the 72,000 Unlock.

 RiTides wrote:
Wow, those are impressive! If WHFB was still a thing, I'd be sorely tempted... but some don't seem to be quite as good of a fit for AoS.

I saw mention of a Slann above, but I don't see it on the campaign page... am I just missing it?

That "chameleon skink" hero is especially awesome!

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Sweeet!

There is one person in my KoW group that plays Salamanders as an allied force - I think I will send him the lnk. (He has a weird army - Salamanders and Brotherhood... care to guess which edition of Warhammer brought him into fantasy gaming? )

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damn - those looks sweet. Wish I had a use for them.
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
I don't normally like these indie kick starter models, but some of these models are pretty boss. I think I see more value in these guys as character stand-ins or as replacements for some of the LIzardmen's less solid models.

This line is also sort of funny to see as a real world example of why GW has embarked on its IP purge and moved towards things that are more defensible. This whole kickstarter is basically designed to piggy back on GW's brand.


I'd say it's perfect example of why GW's own mismanagement of their brand killed WHF - the reason there's an opening for these guys to make their army and actually have a realistic prospect of selling well is quite simple; the GW models are largely rubbish, have been for years, and will almost certainly remain so for years more and possibly forever.

And the idea that what they have now is "more defensible" is the same awful misunderstanding of the law that led them into the chapterhouse debacle - they can probably exercise slightly tighter control over trademarks over made up gobbledygook names, but "paladin in plate armour with lightning motifs"? Aye good luck stopping anyone making models of that if they wanted to - GW prevent people from "piggy backing" in one way and one way only; by making models good enough that it's not worth the bother to try and sell alternatives.

This stuff is spectacular but sadly I don't collect whole armies any more, I'm going to have to work on an old mate to try and get him to buy in so I can filch a few models for Mordheim

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Yodhrin I think its less to do with GW and more to do with Kickstarter and the internet. There have always been 3rd party model companies; but its only in the last span of years that many can home-grow through connections to market online; through crowdsourcing and through easier access to overseas factories.

Basically in the early days 3rd parties couldn't connect to a big market because they didn't own a highstreet shop chain and sourcing and distribution was harder. So they never got to any decent size. The internet lets them market to the world market and lets them make more of a business with far less overhead and not even a reliance to stock to masses of retailers (They can hook into the handful of big online names if they want).


Of course GW does have input, but its more the scale; because GW is huge their market is also huge and thus there's more market to poach customers off with alternate sculpts. Either for full armies or for a handful of replacement units here and there.
I suspect that if Warmachine continues to gain power it too will experience the 3rd parties making alternate sculpts of their stuff too.

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 Yodhrin wrote:
- GW prevent people from "piggy backing"...


I always get a kick out of this. GW get's upset when people use GW for stuff but GW entire line is "almost" a copy of something else. How ironic GW sues for what they basically do.


The pics shown, are those actual miniatures or just computer renders at the moment?

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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These lizards look fantastic. As said above, that Coatl model is amazing.

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Im glad you guys like them! I would buy that chameleon hero... If I wasnt broke right now

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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 Galas wrote:
Im glad you guys like them! I would buy that chameleon hero... If I wasnt broke right now


I would buy the entire set if I wasn't broke either. Is this a Kickstarter thing only or can we buy them at a later date?

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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So if i understand correctly, these are 30mm?


 
   
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Davor wrote:
 Galas wrote:
Im glad you guys like them! I would buy that chameleon hero... If I wasnt broke right now


I would buy the entire set if I wasn't broke either. Is this a Kickstarter thing only or can we buy them at a later date?


Most model KS aim to be commercial after their KS runs,

Of course its not always simple. Funding and fulfilment can be hard even if they fund really well (basically under or over funding in the extreme can have problems). Prices are also typically a lot higher for retail (KS tend to be discounted prices from retail); even if they do well they might stagger the commercial release so not everything will appear at the same time.

The other aspect is that you might have to wait a year or two; model KS tend to take a while to get the production done and complete KS orders.



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These are some of the coolest Lizardmen models, really, models in general, that I've seen in a long time. I'll definitely be pledging to this one.

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Davor wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
- GW prevent people from "piggy backing"...


I always get a kick out of this. GW get's upset when people use GW for stuff but GW entire line is "almost" a copy of something else. How ironic GW sues for what they basically do.


The pics shown, are those actual miniatures or just computer renders at the moment?

the big pic is all the models together. They have them printed up to show as far as i recall. They had two of them painted by a comission studio as well, the skink heros.

They had a previous kickstarter for a line of chaos dwarves they still sell, i belive.

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 Carnikang wrote:
They had a previous kickstarter for a line of chaos dwarves they still sell, i belive.

That's right ... magmhorin-dwarves So they do have reason to treat backers well, since they'd want further business. Still, other businesses have made choices that alienate customers, so that' no guarentee they will look towards the long term.

By the way, take a look at the MagmhĂ´rin Realm Gate. Magnificent. As I do have a KoW Abyssal Dwarves army, I'd love to have that terrain piece, but there's nowhere to store it.

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Hnnng, those Dwarves are shiny. Wish there was a good size comparison of all the various Dwarf and Evil Dwarf models out there.

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Nice models - the Kroxigor and Chameleon Skinks are great alternatives to older finecast models.

Thanks for posting this.

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