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Hi All,



just looking for a quick bit of help...

I am building a repulsor for my deathwatch but can't settle on a loadout. 

During a recent match an opponent told me that the storm bolters on a vehicle cannot use Special Issue ammunition. I cannot find this written anywhere - is this the case? 
Unless I am being a little daft as far as I can see deathwatch vehicles can use the special issue ammo if the weapon allows it?



can anybody help me out with this one?



Thanks in advance

Only units that explicitly have the Special Issue Ammunition rule can use it. I'm pretty sure the Repulsor datasheet does not have the rule.

Look for the keywords part of the dataslate.
If the special ammo is allowed for Deathwatch-marked vehicles, see if the Repulsor has that.
I don't know the special ammo rule, and am just guessing based on similar questions.

[There you go ^ . If it isn't on the dataslate, you can't use it]

Having a little dig, I don't think any big vehicles have the rule... Bikes do though.

Stux wrote:
Only units that explicitly have the Special Issue Ammunition rule can use it. I'm pretty sure the Repulsor datasheet does not have the rule.

Thank you - I was looking at the keywords rather then the special rules.

it appears that the repulsor cannot have the ammo

baggy42 wrote:
During a recent match an opponent told me that the storm bolters on a vehicle cannot use Special Issue ammunition. I cannot find this written anywhere - is this the case? 
Unless I am being a little daft as far as I can see deathwatch vehicles can use the special issue ammo if the weapon allows it?

Just correct a bugbear of mine, "It doesn't say I can't" is not a valid argument. The rules tell you what you can do (and then layers restrictions on top of that), not what you can't do. Nowhere in the Deathwatch codex does it say I can't fire my Repulsors guns 42 times per turn.

The Repulsor doesn't have the Special Issue Ammunition rule in the Abilities section of its datasheet, so it doesn't have the rule. 8th is actually good like that!

 BaconCatBug wrote:

baggy42 wrote:
During a recent match an opponent told me that the storm bolters on a vehicle cannot use Special Issue ammunition. I cannot find this written anywhere - is this the case? 
Unless I am being a little daft as far as I can see deathwatch vehicles can use the special issue ammo if the weapon allows it?

Just correct a bugbear of mine, "It doesn't say I can't" is not a valid argument. The rules tell you what you can do (and then layers restrictions on top of that), not what you can't do. Nowhere in the Deathwatch codex does it say I can't fire my Repulsors guns 42 times per turn.

The Repulsor doesn't have the Special Issue Ammunition rule in the Abilities section of its datasheet, so it doesn't have the rule. 8th is actually good like that!

this would have been a really helpful answer if it wasn't for the condescending nature of the first half.

I am a new and casual player - I was looking at the rules for the weapons rather then the unit themselves.

I'm not trying to be condescending, just factual. My example was just that, an example. I am sorry if it came off as condescending. Text is a difficult medium to display tone with.

no problem. Thank you for taking the time to help with the question

baggy42 wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

baggy42 wrote:
During a recent match an opponent told me that the storm bolters on a vehicle cannot use Special Issue ammunition. I cannot find this written anywhere - is this the case? 
Unless I am being a little daft as far as I can see deathwatch vehicles can use the special issue ammo if the weapon allows it?

Just correct a bugbear of mine, "It doesn't say I can't" is not a valid argument. The rules tell you what you can do (and then layers restrictions on top of that), not what you can't do. Nowhere in the Deathwatch codex does it say I can't fire my Repulsors guns 42 times per turn.

The Repulsor doesn't have the Special Issue Ammunition rule in the Abilities section of its datasheet, so it doesn't have the rule. 8th is actually good like that!

this would have been a really helpful answer if it wasn't for the condescending nature of the first half.

I am a new and casual player - I was looking at the rules for the weapons rather then the unit themselves.

Better get used to it. This is pretty much how 2/3rds of the Dakka community answer things unfortunately.

ValentineGames wrote:

baggy42 wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

baggy42 wrote:
During a recent match an opponent told me that the storm bolters on a vehicle cannot use Special Issue ammunition. I cannot find this written anywhere - is this the case? 
Unless I am being a little daft as far as I can see deathwatch vehicles can use the special issue ammo if the weapon allows it?

Just correct a bugbear of mine, "It doesn't say I can't" is not a valid argument. The rules tell you what you can do (and then layers restrictions on top of that), not what you can't do. Nowhere in the Deathwatch codex does it say I can't fire my Repulsors guns 42 times per turn.

The Repulsor doesn't have the Special Issue Ammunition rule in the Abilities section of its datasheet, so it doesn't have the rule. 8th is actually good like that!

this would have been a really helpful answer if it wasn't for the condescending nature of the first half.

I am a new and casual player - I was looking at the rules for the weapons rather then the unit themselves.

Better get used to it. This is pretty much how 2/3rds of the Dakka community answer things unfortunately.

I don't find this to be true at all. Most of the people on this forum are actually quite pleasant and provide useful answers. Some particularly vocal frequent posters, like BCB, like to add sarcasm and hyperbole to their posts, which, intentional or not, can come off as condescension or even outright hostility in the written medium.

To the OP... general rule of thumb. Army wide rules like the Deathwatch Special Ammo rules are generally tied to DATASHEETS or KEWORDS. I can't think of any instance off the top of my head where they're tied to weapons.

EDIT... old edition and I don't follow Marines anymore, but taking Salamanders used to give a buff to flamers and meltas regardless of which unit wielded them. Might still be the case.