ITC clock rules. (Not for the faint hearted)

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**Crimson Devil**

Eldarsif wrote:

Second, there needs to be a tournament sanctioned dice app that is used for rolling. This way everyone can use the same app without people being afraid of cheating.

GW already has a legal dice app.

http://assaultdice.com/

**Crimson Devil**

Daedalus81 wrote:
Let's take this back to the roots for a second.

I have 2.5 hours to play a game.
It doesn't matter if it's a game at home (wife needs me) or a tournament.
It doesn't matter if it's competitive or not - I want to play my army as much as my opponent.

Why should either player get more time than the other one?

Horde Privilege.

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w1zard wrote:

I watched this discussion and haven't said anything because I don't really have a dog in the fight. However, I have a somewhat radical solution. Why are there even time limits at all? As many people have pointed out, WH40k is not a game designed around time limits. Why not just have the next tournament round start whenever all of the previous tournament round games end, and not impose arbitrary time limits on the players? If the players lag too far behind and everyone is kind of waiting on one game or something, the judge can disqualify both players if it becomes an issue.

Money. Big events would simply not be able to function properly. If you're running an event in a local shop then you can probably be a bit more flexible. But I'm sure the owner and employees would like to go home at a reasonable time. Waiting for a horde player to finish their game would not make them very popular with the other players or staff.

**Crimson Devil**

Sunny Side Up wrote:

If anything, regular ITC players with an interest in a good game should be the most critical of ITC piling on bureaucratic rules nilly willy for feeble reasons, rather than going full scientology on everything the ITC puts out and everyone who dares not praise their decisions without questions.

And his agenda is revealed.

**Crimson Devil**

Fear of punishment only works on people who aren't going to commit the crime anyway. If it did work than there would be a smaller prison population then we do in this country.

Draconian punishments are really for the enjoyment of the mob.

**Crimson Devil**

Have you never heard of A Pirate's hook?

**Crimson Devil**

That time is used to visit the restroom and find your next table. The only time you get free time is if your game ended early.

**Crimson Devil**

I personally feel a game should only be scored for the turns played. Talking out and scoring the unplayed turns should be a DQ for false reporting.

The thing about slow play is everybody does it. But few own it, because of time dilation. Clocks remove doubt and give a Judge evidence to act on.