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Hey all, got a friendly coming up this weekend and thought I'd use my old 3rd ed Dark Eldar, any thoughts on the list would be appreciated. Fairly rough list, looking for advice on minor upgrades, possibly making the wych cult a battalion instead for extra cp Coming up against nids.
Bear in mind this is all I have! Thanks guys

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [24 PL, 462pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Obsidian Rose

+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 76pts]: Huskblade, Splinter pistol

Archon [4 PL, 76pts]: Huskblade, Splinter pistol

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 80pts]
. 8x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon: Dark Lance
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 80pts]
. 8x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon: Dark Lance
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 70pts]
. 8x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon: Splinter Cannon
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 80pts]
. 8x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon: Dark Lance
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [25 PL, 496pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Flayed Skull

+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 76pts]: Huskblade, Splinter pistol

+ Heavy Support +

Ravager [7 PL, 140pts]: Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance

Ravager [7 PL, 140pts]: Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance

Ravager [7 PL, 140pts]: Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance

++ Patrol Detachment (Aeldari - Drukhari) [28 PL, 542pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: None (Mixed Detachment)

+ HQ +

Succubus [4 PL, 50pts]: Archite Glaive, Splinter pistol

+ Troops +

Wyches [4 PL, 88pts]
. Hekatrix: Agoniser, Splinter pistol
. 8x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Hydra gauntlets

Wyches [4 PL, 88pts]
. Hekatrix: Agoniser, Splinter pistol
. 8x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Hydra gauntlets

+ Fast Attack +

Reavers [3 PL, 73pts]
. Arena Champion: Agoniser
. Reaver
. Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models): Heat lance

Reavers [3 PL, 73pts]
. Arena Champion: Agoniser
. Reaver
. Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models): Heat lance

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [5 PL, 85pts]: Dark Lance

Raider [5 PL, 85pts]: Dark Lance

++ Total: [77 PL, 1500pts] ++

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If this is "all you have" do you have another Succubus model to make a Battlion out of the Wych Cult?

The immediate point savings from switching all of your Lances to Dissies would afford you the 2nd Succubus easy and be an overall advantage to your army in addition.

I'd personally suggest dropping some Wyches from the Wych squads in order to allow your Succubus (or Succubi) to ride in the Raiders with the Wyches rather than running behind them like a tube-born chump.

If you do the Dissie switch I suggested you get 60 free points, so to make your Battalion dream work...

+60 from Dissie switch
-50 to buy a 2nd Succubus
+16 dropping two Wyches to get extra boat space for Succubi

Leaves you 26 points - you could easily drop the footslogging s.cannon squad to buy another batch of Wyches if you have them.
If you lack Wyches other than what is shown - well, first kitbash a Succubus, then you can drop both Raider Wych squads to a 7 and 8 wych squad, and get a 5 man walking squad (maybe drop a Wych from the 8 man to toss a net and Aggie on it...?)

I don't tend to advocate footslogging Wyches (or Warriors for that matter) but it would get you the Battalion you're looking for.

Hey thanks for the advice. No I don't have the extra Succubus but I'll be able to proxy individaul models such as HQ's, its more if I have to proxy a whole unit then my friend will think its sketchy.

How good are disintegrators? Their stats are pretty solid but I'm also coming up against nids, and I'm quite sure he'll be running nidzilla or close to it and would love the dark lances to light him up.

Regarding the wyches, to avoid footslogging any of them what if I ran 2 units of 5 in one Raider and 8 in the other with the 2 succubi? Yeah I personally don't advocate footsloggers either but unfortunately I only have two raiders and have to make some compromises, thought it would be the lesser of two evils to throw wyches in the transports

I think that helps your opponent's target choices too much, but it assuredly solves the footslogging issue so might be a better option.

Disentigrators are basically a bit inferior to Lances against T6-7 and T10-16 targets.
They're pretty much markedly superior against basically every other possible target in the game and cost less.

If you can get the points put blasters in your warrior squads. Especially for obsidian rose, 24" blasters are great. Thats if you are hunting big bugs. Little bugs or to protect yourself from genestealers you might want more wytches.

 Thor665 wrote:
I think that helps your opponent's target choices too much, but it assuredly solves the footslogging issue so might be a better option.

Disentigrators are basically a bit inferior to Lances against T6-7 and T < --- (didja mean a Wound, Thor?) 10-16 targets.
They're pretty much markedly superior against basically every other possible target in the game and cost less.

Thor's point is almost there, but the math to work in high wound targets means DLs and blasters to do the job. I say that it comes down to knowing what's more likely to show up.

Morty, Maggie or AdMech? T'au tanks? then bring DLs on the ravagers and as many blasters as can fit ( I use Trueborn in venoms ).

Lotsa footers? DG? Then the 2 wound DisintCans are good.

I bring 3 DisInt Cans on 3 raiders, and leave the rest of the anti-I work to my 27 wyches & 2 venoms. My meta tends to have big targets, so I take 21+ DL or blaster weapons to deal with them. If I count the blast pistols, twenty four S8, -4, D6 guns.

 Brothererekose wrote:

 Thor665 wrote:
I think that helps your opponent's target choices too much, but it assuredly solves the footslogging issue so might be a better option.

Disentigrators are basically a bit inferior to Lances against T6-7 and T < --- (didja mean a Wound, Thor?) 10-16 targets.
They're pretty much markedly superior against basically every other possible target in the game and cost less.

Thor's point is almost there, but the math to work in high wound targets means DLs and blasters to do the job. I say that it comes down to knowing what's more likely to show up.

No, I did mean Toughness - for the small section where the Dissie wounds on a 6+ and the Lance wounds on 5+ at T10-15 (I put 16, derp) the Lance can and does perform slightly better. Thankfully these are fairly limited models to expect to see on the board

I don't fully agree with you about wounds - my math did address the wounding average and the greater number of wounds a Dissie is likely to get through does actually help bounce up its likely damage even against a D6 (just as a quick mental thought - say I wound twice with a single Dissie, that's 4 wounds, that means even if I wound with a single lance there is a 50% chance I do less damage, a 16% chance I cause the same damage - so in only one third of the situations will that lead to the Lance doing better. Then consider that the Dissie has three shots to a Lance's one and that's why, even though a Lance does easily do more damage than 2, it actually tends to underperform or only slightly outperform the Dissie)