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TN/AL/MS state line.

Essentially it means being born white gives you an advantage over any other race usually concerning wealth, jobs, and access to services such as healthcare, groceries, etc. Everything is supposedly easier if you’re born white.

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TN/AL/MS state line.

 Polonius wrote:
 Desubot wrote:

I dont think that is how data works.

white vs black only shows that there is only a bias between the two. it has the potential to show that there is white privilege and or black disadvantage. there would of need to be a control to see weather or not its one or the other or both.


I'm genunily uncertain why a disadvantage to one group isn't an advantage to another. It doesn't matter if a white person gets 50% more callbacks or the black person gets 33% fewer, it shows that the white person has an advantage and the black person has a disadvantage.

as well it would be intresting to see the spread in different fields such as tech, industry, financials and even menial labor (with all the different types of names).


From the actual study:
In total, we respond to over 1300 employment ads in the sales, administrative support,
clerical and customer services job categories and send nearly 5000 resumes. The ads we respond to cover a
large spectrum of job quality, from cashier work at retail establishments and clerical work in a mailroom to
office and sales management positions.



What you don’t seem to be understanding is that a disadvantage for one group is not to the advantage of the other. It’s that one group is discriminated against. The other group has no direct benefit to getting call backs, only that they are not being discriminated against.
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TN/AL/MS state line.

 Ouze wrote:
 Polonius wrote:
I'm genunily uncertain why a disadvantage to one group isn't an advantage to another.


Would you mind explaining it one more time? I'd like to pretend I don't understand again.

Is it a privilege to walk down the street without being harassed? The days that a black man walks down a street without being profiled, are they a privilege or just another day? Does he suddenly have an advantage over other men?
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TN/AL/MS state line.

 Ouze wrote:
 Sinful Hero wrote:
Is it a privilege to walk down the street without being harassed?


If you are statistically significantly more likely to enjoy this advantage, yes?

So White women don’t benefit from white privilege seeing as how they’re far more likely to be harassed than men?

 Sinful Hero wrote:
The days that a black man walks down a street without being profiled, are they a privilege or just another day?


On days when a white guy and a black guy both are driving somewhere and the cops don't pull one over days when racial inequality as a longstanding issue suddenly ceases to exist?

Not what I said at all. I merely asked is a black man gaining a privilege he didn’t have on days when he isn’t harrassed by police?
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TN/AL/MS state line.

 Ouze wrote:
 Sinful Hero wrote:
So White women don’t benefit from white privilege seeing as how they’re far more likely to be harassed than men?


Being harassed is only one element of the many factors that the concept of "white privilege" describe. The most easily used analogy is job callbacks because that's well researched and provable (at least, to horses that are thirsty) but of course privilege involves many things, and having less of one benefit doesn't somehow wipe out everything else.

If a black man with a “black sounding” name gets just as many callbacks as the typical white man in these examples, has he gained an advantage over other black men? Did he just dodge discrimination? Or would you argue a combination of both?
 
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