Loving the Space Wolves release

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**Continuity**

Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Karol wrote:
SW seem a weaker version of BAs. Ton of buffs, nice and cheap stratagems, and almost nothing to use them on. If there is anything that is going to be used out of the codex it is probablly some sort of SW version of slamguinius.

GH/BC aren't suddenly making meq worth being run in 8th ed. TWC are less efficient point per point then custodes. There is a ton of melee, even good melee, but no real way to actually reach the melee or keep stuff locked in it. If SW had a good way to ignore Fly or had very good fly unit themselfs, then it would be a totally different thing.

If people are going to play SW it is probablly going to be some sort of Hero spam, with some cheap wolfs, with custodes and IG CP battery allied in. Maybe some people will trade in the custodes for a knight.

You don't know what you're talking about, we can easily get into combat, especially with Wulfen and Wulfen dreadnoughts. TWC are weaker but still are a hard hitting unit and SS can get them up the board. Its so easy for us to get in combat.

An army of dreads and TWC gets stopped by parking a line of cultists in front of them or putting dudes on top of buildings. There's reason why the strongest melee units in the game - Shining spears, custodes bikes, slam captain, daemon princes all have fly

**Continuity**

Karol wrote:
SW seem a weaker version of BAs. Ton of buffs, nice and cheap stratagems, and almost nothing to use them on. If there is anything that is going to be used out of the codex it is probablly some sort of SW version of slamguinius.

GH/BC aren't suddenly making meq worth being run in 8th ed. TWC are less efficient point per point then custodes. There is a ton of melee, even good melee, but no real way to actually reach the melee or keep stuff locked in it. If SW had a good way to ignore Fly or had very good fly unit themselfs, then it would be a totally different thing.

If people are going to play SW it is probablly going to be some sort of Hero spam, with some cheap wolfs, with custodes and IG CP battery allied in. Maybe some people will trade in the custodes for a knight.

Keywords like walker and cavalry are a curse to combat heavy armies, guess what keyword SW armies have in abundance?

The core design of SW is fighting an uphill battle against the 8th edition mechanics, an elite, non-flying melee army with a low model count? I'm surprised they turned out as well as they did. I think SW will work quite well as a standalone faction