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The cost for TH/SS way outweighs the units effectiveness. I mean for the price of a terminator I can have a Wulfen. I think they should be cheaper for terminators as TH/SS have always been there thing/speciality. I think GW pays too much attention of pricing wargear and weapons rather than taking into account the units effectiveness. I think if they took into account the effectiveness of the unit, there would be more balance in the game. Plus I wouldn't mind all wargear being free, every army would have the same benefits/drawbacks from doing that. Plus GW could change the pricing so much more easily if they just had units to tweak, rather than the minefield of units and weapons etc. It would make the game so much simpler and it would be a godsend for list building, it would literally take a few minutes to calculate your lists points. How say you?

So what do you propose for Terminators?

There is an entire "how to fix Terminator thead on here" best plop your stuff in there.

Cool, will have a look.

 Elbows wrote:
There is an entire "how to fix Terminator thead on here" best plop your stuff in there.

Linkie?

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
The cost for TH/SS way outweighs the units effectiveness. I mean for the price of a terminator I can have a Wulfen. I think they should be cheaper for terminators as TH/SS have always been there thing/speciality. I think GW pays too much attention of pricing wargear and weapons rather than taking into account the units effectiveness. I think if they took into account the effectiveness of the unit, there would be more balance in the game. Plus I wouldn't mind all wargear being free, every army would have the same benefits/drawbacks from doing that. Plus GW could change the pricing so much more easily if they just had units to tweak, rather than the minefield of units and weapons etc. It would make the game so much simpler and it would be a godsend for list building, it would literally take a few minutes to calculate your lists points. How say you?

Sounds like playing using Power instead of points to me.

and not all armies would be impacted by removal of weapon costs.

consider tac marines vs intercessors.

Or daemons. They have about two options.