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Looking to build a fun but also competitive list revolving around mostly dreads. I can’t decide which chapter tactics will be better between Salamanders or Iron Hands. I’m leaning towards the free re rolls because everything is independent and will benefit from it. As always C&C is welcome.



++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [50 PL, 859pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

**Chapter Selection**: Salamanders

+ HQ +

Captain on Bike [6 PL, 136pts]: Iron Resolve, Storm shield, The Shield Eternal, Thunder hammer, Twin boltgun, Warlord

Lieutenants [5 PL, 89pts]
. Lieutenant: Chainsword, Combi-flamer, Jump Pack, Teeth of Terra

+ Troops +

Scout Squad [6 PL, 67pts]
. Scout Sergeant: Combat knife, Storm bolter
. 3x Scout w/Boltgun
. Scout w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter

Scout Squad [6 PL, 67pts]
. Scout Sergeant: Combat knife, Storm bolter
. 3x Scout w/Boltgun
. Scout w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter

Scout Squad [6 PL, 65pts]
. Scout Sergeant: Boltgun, Combat knife
. 3x Scout w/Boltgun
. Scout w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter

+ Elites +

Dreadnought [7 PL, 145pts]: Missile launcher, Twin lascannon

Dreadnought [7 PL, 145pts]: Missile launcher, Twin lascannon

Dreadnought [7 PL, 145pts]: Missile launcher, Twin lascannon

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [48 PL, 890pts] ++

+ HQ +

Techmarine [4 PL, 67pts]: Chainsword, Conversion beamer, Storm bolter

+ Elites +

Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 202pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon

+ Heavy Support +

Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought [9 PL, 156pts]
. Two Kheres assault cannons: 2x Kheres assault cannon

Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought [9 PL, 156pts]
. Two Kheres assault cannons: 2x Kheres assault cannon

Relic Leviathan Dreadnought [16 PL, 309pts]: 2x Heavy flamer, Storm cannon array, Storm cannon array

++ Total: [98 PL, 1749pts] ++

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Why are the heavy weapons on the regular dreads ? The contemptors are so much better, they hit on 2s, have 5+ inv sv, more wounds, move faster. Redemptor isnt good, no inv sv, dies quite quickly.

If you can scrounge the points, I would try to upgrade all the regular dreads to venerable dreadnoughts. 2+ to hit is going to benefit both IH and Salamanders significantly. Sure the IH tactic is wasted with the innate 6+ fnp but the ability to hit on 2's re-rolling 1's (with either captain support/Dread Strategem/or salamander CT) is very useful.

Well, I'd take a BA detachment with two smash Captains leading the Scouts.