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Made in gb
Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress






Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.

Now there is one thread on this topic already, and it does cover some of the information below from the experiences of others, but such information is buried in a general thread on Warhammer 40000 Conquest in News and Rumours.
For the general information thread:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751837.page

I am starting my own thread here which is part blog as it covers my experiences so far with the subscription and retail purchases, plus relevant warning information I think is best not buried deep in another thread. I will also be repeating some basic introductory information and links. So here we go.


Part A
What is Warhammer 40000 Conquest?

Here is the website:
https://www.warhammer40000conquest.com

Here is the current TV run advert:


- The exclusive Space Marine miniature is shown in this video. More on him later.

Here is the intro video to what appears will be an ongoing video accompanyment:


- I dont know if this is presented by Hachette of by GW itself.

Now we are on the same page, more or less. It helps to know what is up before you scratch the surface.


What will you get if you buy?

This is a tricky one as we dont know for absolute sure. The best information comes from a breakdown of this first image:

Folder 1: VISUAL CONTENTS OF WARHAMMER 40K CONQUEST
Spoiler:




Lists have been made of the contents from what can be gleaned from these images. I will relist the contents assessment by Vincent Knotley on his blog site which I will link to as courtesy.
https://vincentknotley.wordpress.com

Folder 2: MINIATURES CONTENTS OF WARHAMMER 40K CONQUEST
Spoiler:
Death Guard

In the following list I’ve added in brackets either the cost of the miniature in question or the box which it comes from. To make it easier, I’ve left the cost of pieces which you could get in either First Strike or the Dark Imperium box set blank, though I have added half the cost of each box (£12.50 for First Strike and £47.50 for Dark Imperium) in the final value calculation. Let’s do this!

26 Poxwalkers (Dark Imperium + First Strike) Might be more. They are hard to count.
Malignant Plague Caster (Dark Imperium)
Lord of Contagion (Dark Imperium)
Noxious Blightbringer (Dark Imperium)
Foetid Bloat Drone (Dark Imperium)
Plague Marine Champion £15
12 Chaos Cultists £6 per box, two boxes worth included.
Plague Marine Icon Bearer £15
Easy to Build Myphitic Blight-Hauler £15
Foul Blightspawn £15)
Scribbus Wretch, The Tallyman (15)
Nauseous Rotbone £15
Biologus Putrifier £15
Chaos Rhino £23.50
Easy to Build Lord Felthius and The Tainted Cohort £25
Typhus £25
2 Chaos Spawn £25
Plagueburst Crawler £40
Estimated Death Guard Value: £315.50

Wow. Okay. That’s a lot of money. Also, that’s a hell of a lot of stuff. I’m going to admit here that some of the image is muddled for the Death Guard and a few elements I couldn’t quite work out for definite (particular that smudge just below the Myphitic Blight-Hauler). On the whole though I’m happy to say this feels on the money.

Adeptus Astartes

Same deal here as before. I’ve marked which units or models can be found in First Strike or Dark Imperium and, again, I’ll add £60 to the total at the end of this to show their value in half of these box sets.

3 Intecessors (First Strike)
3 Reivers (First Strike)
10 Intercessors (Dark Imperium)
5 Hellblasters (Dark Imperium)
3 Inceptors (Dark Imperium)
Primaris Captain in Gravis Armour (Dark Imperium)
2 Primaris Lieutenants (Dark Imperium)
Primaris Ancient (Dark Imperium)
Easy to Build Aggressors £20)
Easy to Build Redemptor Dreadnought £25
Easy to Build Primaris Reivers £10 ( Appears to be the only double in the collection though these may also be exclusive variants)
Primaris Apothecary £22.50
Primaris Chaplain £22.50
Primaris Librarian £22.50
Space Marine Heroes (Cataphractii Armour and a Chaplain) £30
Space Marine Scouts £15.50
Space Marine Scouts with Sniper Rifles £15.50
Attack Bike £16.50
Bike Squad £20
Primaris Repulsor £50
Space Marine Land Speeder £18.50
Estimated Adeptus Astartes Value: £348.50

Again. Not an amount of money to sniff at. It’s also worth bearing in mind with this list in particular that there is another model in there. One with a sword half out of his scabbard.

That appears to be an exclusive miniature which, at this time, is only available in Warhammer 40,000: Conquest. [Edit- This miniature is visble in the trailer at the top of this thread and is a Primaris marine drawing a sword - Orlanth] I’ve left its value out of the overall value because estimations take time and could wildly affect the calculations here.

That’s the green and blue bits of the image done. Let’s look at the ruddy brown, all of which is terrain available from Games Workshop

Sector Imperialis Objectives £20
Munitorum Armoured Containers £30
Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Servohaulers £25
Battlefield Accessories Set £12
Thermic Plasma Regulators £15
Haemotrope Reactors £25
Thermic Plasma Conduits £22.50
Galvanic Magnavent or a Promethium Forge, I’m not sure. £45
Ryza Pattern Ruins (17.50)
Estimated Terrain Value: £212

For the grand total here, based on the estimates I’ve shown above, Warhammer 40,000: Conquest in miniatures alone is worth £876. That… that’s a lot of money. A lot of saving too! If you take on the premium subscription you save £131 and if you go for the basic subscription you save a whopping £251! Yowser.
Remember too that with this subscription you can also expect to get hobby and gaming supplies included like paints, brushes, and dice. We don’t know quite in what combination or how deep into the Citadel Hobby Product ranges they’ll go. Whatever way you look at it, that’s quite the saving.


Estimated value of the miniatures £884 (£876+ plus exclusive miniature)
Mr Knotley estimates the value on miniatures at £876, though that rounds down many elements and does not give a price for the exclusive miniature. The exclusive Primaris officer will be available in issue 5, which is the first non retail issue
It could just as easily be available to anyone who buys issue 5 (or whatever) subscriber or not. In which case he is literally worth £7.99, at least until he hits eBay. i have added £8 to the value as a fair estimate.

Estimated value of the paints. £97.10
There are 27 standard 12ml paints plus 6 larger pots. It is hard to add a 'worth' to these paints as Gw paints are artifically expensive, but we can at least have an estimate on the cost. Regular pots cost £2.55 and large pots cost £4.55. This is only itself an estimate as there as at least one paint that nominally costs more, metallics like Retributor Armour cost £3.50
Assuming the known pot of Retributor armour is the only non standard paint the total comes to 1x £3.50 + 26x £2.55 + 6x £4.55 a total of £97.10

Estimated value of the hobby tools. £23.95+ (plus approx £11)
The subscription gifts include:
1x Painting handle £5,
4x paint brushes: Starter brush (no price - low estimate £3), Large Base Brush £5.25, Small Layer brush £4.45, Medium Shade brush £4.75
1x Clippers: (no price - low estimate £5) this is an older clipper no longer sold by GW, the current one is £20
1x mouldline remover: (no price - low estimate £3) this is an older mouldline remover the current one is £10.50
1x Plastic glue £4.50
1x A2 poster: (free)
1x A4 binder with dividers: (no price)

Estimated cost of subscription £622.21
First issues - £1.99
Second issue - £4.99
Third issue - free to subscribers
Fourth to eightieth issues - £7.99 each (may be subject to change?)

Retail value saving £382.84
Total cost £1005.05 plus unknown value of old style clippers, standard brush and A4 binder (omitted from net total)

Reseller value saving estimate £194.43
20% discount plus free shipping assumed = £797.64, plus £11 added for old style clipper, mouldline remover and standard brush. Exclusive miniature remains at £8.

It is up to you how good a deal that is. If these are not the armies you wanted it will be less of a deal than £622 spent on exactly what you want, and some essential items such as the brushes other than the starter brush will not be available to you until six months after you start your subscription, handy if you need a replacement set of brushes, but not good to tide you over without additional purchase. On the other hand I hear very nice things about the old mouldline remover, and you will get that item in your first delivery along with a brush, the glue and clippers.


Premium Subscription


You can pay £1.50 extra per issue to upgrade to Premium. Issue 3 is still free for Premium subscribers, thus the total cost of Premium is £118.50 for the full subscription run of eighty issues, though if the last issue with premium is issue 70 (according to Hachette customer services see below) there is not reason not to cancel premium from that point onwards saying £15, new amended total of £103.50 . What do you get for c£100? Truth is we do not know, we aren't even sure when let alone what we will get. However comments from Hachette Publishing implied they were all battlemat related.
The Issue 1 poster reverse says "Subscribe Now! Collect 4 exclusive preium kits, each including - Conquest Storage Box, Data Cards, Conquest Dice, Punch Tokens and Heavy Duty Play Mat."
This is backed up by the Warhammer Community company blog:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/29/begin-your-conquest-today/
You can also choose a premium subscription, which includes an additional box of goodies for each of the four warzones that will be covered over the course of the series, including datacards, exclusive dice, a sheet of pop-out card tokens and a fold-out gaming board.


Thus it makes sense to assume that the four premium boxsets are all terrain related, plus game aids as there are four sets of 'Premium Wargear' and the campaign included has 'four warzones' to fight over. I like at least that there is an ongoing campaign, but cardstock battlemats are all well and good. The four cardstock mats might together make one battlezone and the £118.50 premium might be little more than Moon Base Clavius (which contains four mats of similar size and costs £50), possibly without the platic components Moon base Clavius contains.

Now I ordered a Premium subscription and on looking deeper into Warhammer 40000 Conquest, contacted customer services earlier this week to ask about to find out what was in it.
It is rather vague, the customer services people didn't know beyond the contents of the first box. The customer services person also had a different time window to the website, first box is at 10, second with 30, third with issue 50 and fourth with 70. The T&C and Hachette website has different listing, and there is a typo in the T&C, which is odd. Listing Premium bonus as first box in issues 15-18, next 27-30 (27-20 in the T&C) then "every five issues thereafter".
I find the customers services time window to be more plausible, where the last two premium boxsets in five issue intervals after issue 30 there is either no point in subscribing to Premium after issue 40 or there is a continuous benefit.
So far I have yet to ascertain which info is correct. However the T&C did state that those cancelling Premium down to a regular subscription will get a miniature in part payment of any portion owed, which later was ammended.

Tip on Premium subscription: The thing to note here is that partwork premium purchases have the opposite effect as crowdfunding premium purchases for miniatures gamers. Gamers are used to premium upgrades, particularly on kickstarter where the premium offer contains the most stuff, often substantially more than basic subscription sand is a better material deal. Partworks often have the opposite thnking beghind them, are for 'whales' and offer considerably less value for money. So far I have seen what amounts to plastic components for my Conquest armies, and I question whether the components are worth the money spent. Counters and data cards are hard to estimate a value for as GW doesnt usually make them, and data cards are normally valid only for the army collected, not the faction as a whole so if you expand your armies later you may have gaps in card coverage and counter coverage which will destroy the unifirm effect you are getting from the extra components.
Maybe the later Premium Wargear boxsets will onclude a full copy of the Rulebook (it has everything else from Dark Imperium so why not), but I cannot assume that. I cannot in fact assume anything including when it will arrive. As a result I cannot recommend you buy Premium.


Retail Purchase

Currently Warhammer 40000 Conquest is available from WHSmith and Games Workshop stores amongst places, and the gaming community has certainly noticed.
Issue 1 comes with 3 easy to build Primaris Intercessors (£10) the starter brush (£?)and three paints Retributor Armour (£3.50), Abaddon Black £2.55) and Macragge Blue (£2.55) plus the magazine and A2 poster all for £1.99.
Talk about blood in the water. WHSmith was out of stock within 24 hours nationwide and customers in GW were only able to get copies where savvy management limited stock to one per customer. I could see this coming but was not well on Wednesday.
Many copies immediately reappeared on ebay as a whole or broken up and some online admitted to buying up entire newsagents stock to do so. I myself wanted a total of five copies (four retail plus one subscription) so I could have three squads of five intercessors. So far I have one, plus my subscription.
Partwork magazines normally retail only for a limited time. This partwork appears to be no different. GW confirmed they will only have shelf stock for issues 1 through 4, the idea of retail copies is to plug the subscription. Also it is TV advertised, which is quite usual for starts of partwork campaigns and indicative of a short, high intensity, publicity window. There will come a time very soon when your newsagents can no longer stock the retail issues and only provide reserved subscriber copies. In fact as of today Hachette Publishing has listed Issue 1 as out of stock.
So you will need to approach Hachette then to get extra copies. The company will quickly tire of being the de facto provider of Retributor Armour paint, and may soon limit copies to subscriptions only . I doubt they could even afford to sell issue 1 at £4.99 long term.
In any case there is a hefty markup of £2 on directly ordered single 'back' copies, check the small print. So those saying that people who miss out on retail copies "should mail order" should note that it doubles the price to do so, if they can at all.
The more people who buy up large numbers of copies the faster this bonanza will end. However I wont assume that will stop anyone buying, but when you do consider holding a copy or two sealed for a mate who misses out later. Sooner or later new subscribers will only be able to get one copy of issue 1, via direct subscription, and they will ideally need two copies of issue 1 to get the essential core paints in the quantity required to complete the whole campaign.
If it remains openly available at all, in all likelihood Issue 1 & 2 will become a combo pack at £7.99. That is still a very good intro deal for a partwork but takes the sting out of Hachettes profit margin losses.
Please note that Hachette partworks is not a gaming company, this is a new market for them, normally they do knitting kit partworks and balsa wood craft kit partworks. Grannies are not going to frenzy for ten copies of issue 1 because it has three balls of yarn and a new knitting needle for £1.99; gamers on the other hand behave very differently to what they might have expected.
I was expecting Hachette to run out of copies quickly and indeed this is how it has played out. There may be a restock but Hachette must reserve compies for actual subscriptions. In any case according to WSmiths managers, who deal with partwork magazines all the time the initial retail runs normally are stocked for two weeks each and normally only the first few copies. Technically Warhammer 40000 Conquest will be expected to be available in retail for one more week. I doubt we will be that lucky.
Issue 2 will be out very soon. This contains 3 easy to build Plague Marines (£10), six dice (£?) and a pot of Death Guard paint (£2.55) for £4.99. Still a good bargain, and I recommend subscribers to buy an additional copy to have enough paint and to fill out the extra squad to a usable number.


Separate mail order purchases

Once copies of the magazine have been distributed they join Hachettes backstock catalogue. This will mean that some issues will contain models that are worth more than others, all at a flat rate of £7.99. I suggest you keep an eye out for those here:
https://hachettepartworks.com/warhammer-40000-conquest
I have looked for info on Hachettes policy on restocks and have emailed them. I will be updating this thread with information gleaned from their reply.


Overseas Subscriptions

Hachette lists this project as available for subscription only from the UK and Ireland, Brexit might have something to do with the specificity of availability. Though it could just be that Hachette has offices only in those two countries.
However the inside cover of Issue One has a column of company info, credits and sundry. Part of this is a list of Hachette affiliate companies. There is a good chance Hachette simply copy pastes this into all its magazines as standard and yet this project is still only available in the UK and Ireland. However that is only Hachette, not Hachette affiliates, and why list an Australian company and phone details in a magazine not available in Australia?
Here is my transcript of the section in full, word for word and triple checked:


CUSTOMER SERVICE, SUBSCRIPTIONS & BACK ORDERS IN OVERSEAS MARKETS


Australia
visit www.bissettmags.com.au or alternatively call (03) 9872 4000

New Zealand
email: info@mycollectables.co.nz or alternatively call (09) 928 4493

South Africa
visit: www.jacklin.co.za or alternatively call (011) 265 4309


There is a chance Hachette has immunity from GW beyond EU trade policy, you are de facto buying a Hachette product of Citadel miniatures not a Games Workshop product.. It could be that GW contract with Hachette restricts sale to UK and Ireland and companies selling in Uk and Ireland in contract, it could be that the above companies have a negotiated right to part order for customers of theirs from Hachette, in which case you might be able to buy subscriptions from Australia, New Zealand or South Africa by the back door.
I cannot guarantee this will work or what extra mark up is added, but its worth a shot yes! And if this allows gamers down under to break through the pricewall more power to you.
What might happen is that the above companies buy bulk from Hachette for resale, very likely echoing a third party subscriber through thier own subscription system, in which case a markup is inevitable. It is highly unlikely the above companies print product themselves, and they would still have to get Citadel components in, which isn't going to happen, so the former is more likely. assuming you can order at all.

My research into the three companies has led me to the following.

Contact General Info
https://hachettepartworks.com/home/contact

Australia
Bissett Mags has stopped trading as of June this year. This still makes sense as the issues we see today are echoes of a print run from early this year when Bissett was trading. Australian customers should contact Hachette and ask if there is a replacement supplier for Hachette Partworks in Australia on the same number as above.
The Hachette webpage has the following info on Australia:
Customer Care Centre – Subscription / Enquiries / Back issues call (03) 9872 4000 or write to: Hachette, PO Box 3460, NUNAWADING VIC 3131
For back issues, please enclose payment of the cover price, plus $1.65 inc GST per issue postage and handling. Back issues are subject to availability.
Alternatively, back issues can be ordered from your newsagent.


New Zealand
The link appears to be working:
https://www.mycollectables.co.nz/contact-us/
For back issues, ask your local magazine retailer or write to: Netlink, PO Box 47906, Ponsonby, Auckland.


South Africa
Jacklin is trading:
https://www.jacklin.co.za
They have Hachette Partworks stock but not links to Warhammer 40000 Conquest. Hachettes own customer services is in South africa, maybe there is a way to get stock too?


Overseas Sales by the Back Door

There are parcel forwarding services available in the Uk. They have no restriction based on GW contract, only by Uk law.

You could contact one of the following companies or others and ask for a redelivery set up.
https://www.forward2me.com
https://www.outpostsvc.com

The above is by no means an exhaustive list and i cannot give any recommendations of one company over another.
As reshipping will be fixed rate it would make a lot of sense for the forwarding company to echo several subscriptions at once and then ship them abroad. in which case after ascertaining whether a forwarding company is willing to have subscriptions shipped to their office you could ask friends to join you in making the cost worthwhile.
This whole procedure is very high risk, you will have forwarding company handling fees customs, plus delays, it will also mess things up if members of your syndicate choose to cancel their subscriptions unilaterally. I mention this as a possibility as the markup might counteract the discount to round out to a good price to destinations outside the UK, but I have to ask if you really want this product this badly.


My tips for collectors.

A. Other than multiple retail copies of Issue One at £1.99, there are two sweet spots for subscription/purchase:

1. Do the whole thing without Premium up to issue 80. I dont think Premium is worth it. Though as and other have worked out the general run is worth the price. Methinks the company makes its best profit out of Premium, it doesnt offer much, and it's for 'whales'.

2. Do a subscription but cancel after your first delivery.
Note that the subscription gifts are for deliveries not issues. Some commentators have listed the benefits as issue linked. We get 'monthly' (4 weekly) deliveries, IIRC it is weekly if you collect from your newsagent. So the final subscription reward, the brushes you get at 'month' 7.
I asked customer services about the free issue, it is Issue 3, the first full priced one. This is also the first issue in the second delivery as the intial delivery only contains issues 1 and 2.
Therefore one can subscribe and get one delivery of Issues 1 and 2, four paints, a paint brush, and six minis, and the clippers glue and mouldline remover and it costs £8.
This is worthwhile even if the two armies do not interest you, and the copy of Issue 1 is guaranteed and availability wont as easily expire.
Note the section below on cancellation though.

B. If you see a copy of Issue One on a shelf anywhere, just buy it. Buy it even if you have stopped collecting 40K or don't like Primaris, give it to a buddy who does.


Part B
Issues with Warhammer 40000 Conquest

Other than what I believe to be a miscalculation on Hachette Publishing's part on Issue One and the typo in the confusing details regarding Premium content in the T&C, I have some misgivings over the last week with regards to this project.


Subscription irregularities

Initially I ordered a Premium subscription and asked about to find out what was in it. It was rather vague and I decided on the strength of this to downgrade and found I could not. To cancel you need to print out a form and send it. It does say you can phone or email but doesn't give a number/address for either. This got my attention as it is illegal to make it harder to cancel than it is to sign up for a subscription. I have no customer number (that will apparently arrive in a few days). I could cancel my Direct Debit (so I am personally ok) but I think the structure is worth investigating anyway.
Especially on reading this:
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.hachettepartworks.com

For example:

"I have never recieved an invoice from them so was unable to provide them with my Subscription number and was unable to locate any corrospondance from them which would provide me with that referance."

I do not have any subscription details, for any other subscriber, do you?

Some Hachette customers have had problems cancelling one saying she was ignored by customer services. Allowing for the inability to simply cancel on the website, and with how it is illegal to obfuscate cancellation terms and action, I find the correlation with other customer who have had problems worrying.

Now the product looks good, and I do want my subscription, but things may not be all well with Hachette.

Please note that I an currently unable to downgrade my subscription from premium, which is serious enough in my eyes. I am covered currently under the UK laws on distance selling, for the next two weeks after my sign up, so I will go through the motions on how to cancel though Hachette's system. It says I can cancel anytime on the how to page when I signed up, but it doesn't actually appear to be the case. I will notify you here if I have further trouble, though it may pay for other subscribers to do your own research and find out for yourselves.


On the 28 day cancellation notice timer.

Some people on Dakka have complained about the 28 days notice for cancellation. I have some comments on this.
First the 28 days notice is included in the general T&C found on the website:

https://hachettepartworks.com/home/terms#_ga=2.112306764.956072756.1536109971-2116318758.1535287016

It is also in the FAQ under 'How do I cancel my subscription?':

https://www.warhammer40000conquest.com/contact/


However where it is NOT is in the actual T&C you can read before signing. Here is a full unedited transcript, though in part highlighted by me.

Folder 3: SUBSCRIPTION PAGE T&C
Spoiler:
• You will receive your dispatch within 28 days from the acceptance of your order.

• With your 1st delivery, you will receive 2 issues (one for FREE) with your FREE Citadel Modelling Kit.

• Thereafter you will receive 4 issues packed together every 4 weeks.

• Issue 01 comes at the special price of £1.99 (€2.99), premium subscribers will pay £3.49 (€5.49).

• Issue 02 comes at the special price of £4.99 (€6.99), premium subscribers will pay £6.49 (€9.49).

• Issue 03 onwards is priced at £7.99 (€9.99), premium subscribers will pay £9.49 (€12.49).

• With your 3rd delivery, you will receive your FREE Warhammer 40,000: Conquest Binder & Dividers.

• With your 4th delivery, you will receive your FREE Citadel Painting Handle.

• With your 5th delivery, you will receive your FREE Space Marine Chapter A2 Poster.

• With your 7th delivery, you will receive your FREE Essential Citadel Paintbrush Set.

• Subscription gifts are only available to those beginning their collection with Issues 01, 02, 03 or 04.

• As a subscriber, you will automatically receive binders as they become available at £7.99 (€9.99) each. You will also receive special issues, though you will have the option to opt out of these beforehand.

• You are free to cancel your subscription at any time. You will be able to keep your free gifts and you will not owe any money for goods not yet delivered.



Premium Subscription

• If you take out a Premium Subscription, you will receive 4 Premium Wargame Sets throughout the course of your collection.

• You will receive your 1st Premium Wargame Set with your delivery of issues 15 to 18, your second with issues 27 to 20 and you will then receive your next Premium Wargame Set every 5th delivery thereafter.

• If you start your premium subscription in the middle of a run of issues, you can receive the figurine for this run by making up the difference in price of those issues for which you only paid a standard subscription amount.

• Please note that you can only take out a premium subscription starting from issue 01, 02, 03, 04 or 05.

• A premium subscription can be cancelled at any time and you will receive a refund of £1.50 (€2.50) per issue (for issues which you have paid for) past the issue which was dispatched with the last premium subscription gift.


Immediately after the above document is the green Subscribe button.

There is nothing else in regards to terms and conditions visible before you actually subscribe on the webpage. Therefore the above terms are the T&C subscribed to. Check this for yourself by going to:
https://www.warhammer40000conquest.com
Clicking subscribe now and adding a phantom name and address, or your own to get to page three. It is safe to do this, you can back out safely by hitting the back button and it will not finalise any payment. Don't take my word for it on legal issues, please see for yourself that the legal agreement you would have agreed to does not include any 28 day wait, and in fact the terms agreed claim that you can cancel at any time (highlighted in bold above).

This is not just a legal technicality, in my case I did read the small print in full, prior to subscribing, as I would advise anyone to do when signing a contract. I was unaware of the 28 day timer on cancellations until I visited Dakka.


Tip with Cancellations

If you sign up for this product please do so via Direct Debit.

If you sign up with Direct Debit you will have de facto control over your subscription. If you decided to cancel inform Hachette by email and keep a copy and cancel your Direct Debit they can only appeal for your monies via the Banking ombudsman, wheras if you set up withought a direct Debit, you will have signed what is known as a continuous authority you will have to appeal to Hachette staff to cancel. To cancel outside of Hachettes permission your bank will have to approach the banking ombudsman for you. In either case please keep a copy of the T&C you actually signed for as evidence and consult your bank manager before taking direct action on cancellations outside the 28 day window.

Also note that the website has changed over the last week. A few days ago the page on cancellations directed customers to a print out form to send to Hachette Publishing. This was in fact illegal as under Distance trading regulations in the UK it is illegal to highlight methodologies of cancellation that were not needed to subscibe, i.e. it is illegal to make it more difficult to cancel than it is to subscribe, and as subscriptions can be actioned online, so must cancellations be.

It is possible that the 28 day timer stipulation was not on the webpage when I signed up last week, as I would very likely have noticed that, as I am thorough on these issues [as you can tell from this post]. It could also explain why the actual T&C doesn't include reference to this, AFAIK it is illegal to retroactively change a T&C without formal notification and some changes such as extra hurdles in cancellation cannot be retroactively applied to existing customers.

Any attempt to force me to a 28 day timer on cancellation will be met by a cancellation via the Direct Debit system. Direct Debits are fully under the customers control, one can cancel them anytime via notifying your bank. A creditor can appeal against this for compensation but cannot stop you from cancelling as and of itself. The banking ombudsman rather than Hachette Publishing will adjudicate the matter.

Downgrading from Premium does not appear to have any attached timer, though you only get refunded multiples of £1.50 for yet undelivered

Possible hidden costs

The customer service team member I spoke to was quite forthright when I quizzed him on th contents of Warhammer 40000 Conquest. As stated earlier the had no knowledge of contents of issues beyond Issue 5 and no knowledge of contents of Premium Wargear box sets beyond the first one. However he was able to tell me there will be two special purchases, the is an art book costing £14.99 with issue 19. I asked if it was optional, and the CSR was able to confirm it was. I asked if I had to opt in or opt out and he did not know the answer to that.
There is another piece of additional content scheduled later at about the same price, I don't know what it is as the CSR didn't either, and the exact price is unconfirmed. My guess is it is the main rulebook.

I have heard rumours elsewhere that only one binder is free gift but other binders are added to the subscription at additional cost. Nowhere does Hachette Partworks confirm a full subscription price. It is likely we will have hidden extras and subscribers will be billed for them. As at least the art book is optional there must, or at least should be a fair warning in a prior issue of Warhammer 40000 Conquest, and some methodology to opting in or out as circumstances dictate.


Last sobering detail

It all looks good and it all looks grand, but please note that if you subscribe today, and receive your first delivery in two weeks time , mid September at time of writing, and if every delivery bar the first is of four issues four weekly you will receive issue 78 in February 2020, with the final two issues then or a few weeks later.
That is a long time to wait for your army. It is easy to see the models as what you will get, but ultimately you will have part armies for most of the subscription time.
Partworks are a long time project, wheras we gamers are used to buying and building a whole army rapidly. Warhammer 40000 Conquest is a great way to get extra miniatures, but if you want to recommend this to a beginner it is best to advise them to buy Dark Imperium alongside the subscription so they get their teeth into a core selection sooner. For those wanting to expand their collections in general, please remain aware that this subscription is a slow drip feed of budget deal options and to plan accordingly.

- Orlanth

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Pretty sure that I read somewhere that additional binders will be charged at £7.99 each, no idea if they are opt in or opt out or if they just send you them regardless.

They are getting sent straight back by me.

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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
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 Jidmah wrote:
Is this advertisement and do you get paid for it?


Seeing as he is being critical of the flaws of conquest and hatchet publishing, I'm going to go out on a limb and say no. It's a derailed write up with lots of info delivered on a neutral, non-biased way.

Looking forward to more!

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Thanks Dr Mills, I put the effort in and get accused of being a shill.

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A really odd accusation, cannot please everyone I guess. For what it is worth you got an exalt from me Sir.

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 Jidmah wrote:
Is this advertisement and do you get paid for it?


Did you even read the same highly-critical post I did???

 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
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Anyway,moving the addended blog post to here because it messes with th article formatting of the OP.

Blog 1
I said this will be a blog, so lets start with Issue One.

The magazine is A4 and has no real issue covers, this is because pages are only very loosely stuck together so the entire magazine can be pulled apart and placed in the binder we will get in November. Note that November is a long way off and the magazines will be unprotected until then. May i suggest fellow subscribers use a file pocket into which to add the issues until we get binders for them.

Each page is colour coded and only crudely numbered as they will need to be detached and reassembled in the ever expanding binder. Pretty much every page (both sides) is part of its own story arc, with an illusion of being complete content for the page and overleaf but in actuality the opening words of a longer article on the subject.

The magazine will include backstory for a new chapter, the Silver Templars. Though this will come later, the current issue is all about Ultramarines as to be expected from the way the miniatures are arranged. There is the first page of the getting painting section which handles assembly of the intercessors that come with the kit and a basic painting guide, left intentionally incomplete what covers use of the three paints provided, including using Macragge blue straight over the mini as its own primer. At the close of this issue the intercessor sergeant will go to battle with a blue face and black hair. It is said that his face will be painted 'next issue' though Issue 2 included Death Guard green. The first flesh tone will be in Issue 4.

I suppose post issue 5 with every issue coming in a four part bundle the how to guides can take advantage of the combined contents, so models in say issue 7 can freely be pointed to a paint in say issue 8 because both are bundled together. it will allow better parsing of longer article and enable larger kits like vehicles to be made available in one go.

I do question why post Issue 4 the whole shebang could be amalgamated into monthly issues four times the size, and price. I suppose individual issue backorder is important to Hachette.

My new phone has a camera, being a confirmed dinosaur who hates mobile phones I have been blissfully without a digicam for years now, but I needed the phone and have a camera attachment.

The blog section of this thread will now kick in. I will be blogging my journey through Warhammer 40000 Conquest right here, though as I have not yet decided if I want another Space Marine army I might blog only the Death Guard. Through part of the reason to hold back on the loyalists is to wait and see about the Silver Templars. As the magazine introduces this new chapter it will likely also encourage subscribers to choose them or Ultras for the loyalist faction. I note now that the Macragge blue is listed on this issue as an undercoat/basecoat and the normal instruction to use two coats. Issue 3 has Leadbelcher maybe then you get to decide your chapter allegiance. Lets wait and see.

Lastly I will be blogging contents in each Issue, this will be important as the project drops off public radar. You might not know to single issue order issue x to get model y unless someone who collects blogs it for you regular. Remember each issue will cost £10 direct sale, but if it nets a character costing £25.

I will start the assembly and picture blog when I receive my first actual delivery. Until later then.

Blog 2

Some updates. According to my local Gw manager who got this info from head office Hachette have now securted enough subscriptions to cover the entire cost of the project. From this point onwards they are into profit. They have begun talking to GW about an Age of Sigmar partwork.

Hachette Publishing are still listing Issue One as Out of Stock. However I managed a score today. Small numbers of the magazine are circulating, some within WHSmith, likely from other stores. I asked for three copies from WHSmith last weekend and they arrived today and I got a phone call. The issues all had dog eared packaging so they were not straight from the box but likely shipped from store to store to make up a customer order. the issues themselves are fine, only the large cardboard plate they are attached to. the shop had none other (I wasnt going to add them anyway) they only had three in and lal reserved for me. This leads me strongly to believe they got three in because i ordered three and they soured them internally for me.
I think you should know this because if you go to WHSmith soon and attempt to order them internally you might get lucky and have some reserved for you. The new insotock came with no explanation, but they did phone my house this morning, all looked worn and only three arrived at the store. Pretty sure its redirected stock from another store then, or returns from a local supermarket.

Issue One is worth having for anyone, will have five copies total, enough for 15 Intercessors, the three you get in the partwork alone dont make up a legal squad, you end up with 13 total so they are pretty much useless for listbuilding. Subscribers, do get hold of a second set if you can so you have 16 Intercessors a far more usable sum, and the excess miniature is another sergeant.
Anyway I was happy to share and gave away some of the excess paints 5x each paint is way more than I need. What goes around comes around.

Some headsup on the legal issues from the T&C. It was noticed that the T&C hadn't got the 28 day timer in it and the reason it was not amended was because the clause of 'T&C subject to change' was not included in the initial rushed document. Apparently according to GW head office a number of people have noticed discrepencies and called Hachette and GW both and Hachette which has had a rather amateur attitude to its partworks has had to get a lot more savvy quickly. As I summised earlier we miniatures gamers are a different breed to Hachettes usual customers, we are also apparently very lucrative. While the gold rush for Issue One surprised Hachette and there are concerns the magazines failed to reach the right hands, it mattered not, full subscriptions are very high and having all a shops stock bought out by eBay resellers has led customers to subscribe early to get a foot in. I am hearing a lot of rumours of expansions, but nothing concrete enough to report here.

Issue 2 has been put back a week to give Issue 1 more time to circulate. Methinks there is going to be a second printing. GW head office are bending over backwards to cooperate because this is a very good gateway for new players. Easy to build boxset and single paints are being cannibalised to pas to Hachette at preferential rates so that Issue 1 can be fulfilled for subscribers with a trickle of extra copies, not enough for ebay shop clearers in any one place , to be sent to GW stores and small newsagents so that it has best chance of reaching the kids. That is what I am hearing anyway.

Next step will be seeing what I can do to four sets of monopose Intercessors to make up a variety of models. I want to start the painting blog for you, but it may be wiser for me to wait until I have the main Intercessor boxset before I start that.


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Did your newer issues have a protective sheath for the brush? My original, Forbidden Planet, ones did not but the ones I got from Asda did.

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I had a check just now for you. The one I bought at GW, which was with pristine packaging had no sheath. The three I got today that have very travel worn packaging, one was ripped, though the contents are ok are different on inspection one indeed has a sheath. another brush is shorter by about 3mm and has longer bristles which makes back the length. It is still listed as a starter brush

I was more interested at how manked up the packaing was. Normally WHSmith would not sell when packaging is that bad. Let alone reserve copies in that condition for customers This is emergency redirected stock, possible from a newsagent or stock initially rejected for sale. I had zero complaints of course because its only an outer plate. But it is indicative of how this product is being seen. Any stock, any condition, the people want them, so get them to them. And I did not directly imply that when I asked for some in.

My suggestion if you have multiples it to ai for a total of five or two including subscriptions. Five means three full squads, two means one full squad with an excess sergeant you can use for colour scheme tests, and the crucial double up on Macragge blue paint.

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My local WH Smiths still has 7 copies on display, the British Bookshop a few doors down (part of the same group) had at least 5 on display as well. Seems no-one likes 40k locally..
   
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If the meta hasnt caught up. Either someone in your town notices either from themselves or by looking here or on gamer blogs or on Youtube, or they do not.

There will be quiet towns where those who game simply do not know. As gamers communicate widely, once one or two know in an area we soon all do. everything got snapped around here, and all over the Birmingham region also very very quickly.

It does not surprise me in the least that according to one regional manager there is a nationwide outage and another town elsewhere has stagnant stock with cobwebs growing on it.

If they begin to get taken off the shelves for return, buy all that remains and put it on ebay. Any actual gamer would have fad a fair shot at them then.

Got any for yourself? Even if the paints don't tempt you know this, even many die hard Vallejo users tend to admit that some Citadel paints are the best in category. Retributor armour is one of those, probably the best gold tone base on the mass market right now. It normally costs £3.50 a pot.

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 Orlanth wrote:
Thanks Dr Mills, I put the effort in and get accused of being a shill.

Actually a "no" would have been fine with me, but sure, read into it whatever you want.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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cheers for the write up, there was a partwork some time back, for an O gauge Flying Scotsman - forget who did it but they had all sorts of problems with it as they tried to backpedal it to be a "static" model when the motor they supplied could hardly move it and a load of quality issues.

Apparently such companies are used to dealing with people who are not that picky and get by on making cancelling awkward enough people don't bother


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Only think to really add for those collecting multiples of the first issue... (I've got two, and the subscription one on the way), you don't get three models you will want a lot of.

only so many sergeants and bods looking at a scanner you can put in a squad, generic bolt rifle guys would be more useful.

did find if you cut the pegs off you can without too much trouble repose arms and heads, plus swap the heads about though

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 Orlanth wrote:
Got any for yourself? Even if the paints don't tempt you know this, even many die hard Vallejo users tend to admit that some Citadel paints are the best in category. Retributor armour is one of those, probably the best gold tone base on the mass market right now. It normally costs £3.50 a pot.


I have 4 from Forbidden Planet and 1 subscription copy on the way. May grab 2 more just for painting practice and for brushes to ruin with varnishing.
   
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I am thinking about getting one last copy, though I will get it if I see it. It is not important.

Because i don't know what chapter to do. I have alway wanted a Crimson Fists army, might go with Ultras and also might go with Silver Templars, it all depends how the magazine story pans out.

I will start the painting blog with the Death Guard, its what I am really after, but if I get into the campaign flow i will want to follow it. Likely that will mean Ultras or the new chapter.

Hence spare disposable test miniatures. Though if I do not get another sprue I can just choose three spare tacticals and paint them.

Nice idea on the varnishing brushes. Current starter brushes arent that good frankly and that might be the best use for them, and yes varnishing can wreck them quickly. Didnt think of that, good call. Now I know what my small stack of brushes are for.

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So it's not available in Australia, right?

P.S.A. I won't read your posts if you break it into a million separate quotes and make an eyesore of it. 
   
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leopard wrote:
cheers for the write up,


You are welcome, though only the OP is 'article' the rest will be my blog.

leopard wrote:

there was a partwork some time back, for an O gauge Flying Scotsman - forget who did it but they had all sorts of problems with it as they tried to backpedal it to be a "static" model when the motor they supplied could hardly move it and a load of quality issues.
Apparently such companies are used to dealing with people who are not that picky and get by on making cancelling awkward enough people don't bother


Hachette is learning to handle its new customer bases expectations. They learned very quickly, I suspect GW had a big hand in that. Gamers will not settle for crap other hobby customers do. That being said with the trial run earlier this year Hachette cant be accused of stepping out blindly.


leopard wrote:

Only think to really add for those collecting multiples of the first issue... (I've got two, and the subscription one on the way), you don't get three models you will want a lot of.


Discussing this around the table at GW today. The concensus is its a collection not an army, though the collection fights itself. You don't get enough of some key models to make an army. I am planning addiitonal purchase of Issue 3 and one maybe two of Issue 2 partly to double up on the paints included but also to make a squad of the contents. £1.99 is a mad deal but £4.99 x2 is not a bad price for a proper squad of Plague Marines and some spare paint. I think I need that colour for when I expand my ghouls. Doubling up Reivers also makes sense for the same reasons.

leopard wrote:

only so many sergeants and bods looking at a scanner you can put in a squad, generic bolt rifle guys would be more useful.
did find if you cut the pegs off you can without too much trouble repose arms and heads, plus swap the heads about though


I have been looking at that a lot. We get a box worth of 10 Intercessors later, I dont know when. I am looking at holding back work until this is done.





We will get two of each sprue. My thinking is that if I hold back until that set arrives I will have enough stuff to break up and customise my 15 EZ Intercessors. I am pretty sure I have the chops to do the knife work on the monopose marines to free them up. Its the lack of guys with both hands on thei gun and the number of marines with auspex that is the problem as you noticed.
If I dont fix this my Primaris Intercessors the elite of the elite will look like a gaggle of teenagers, half pointing at each other than the other all lost in their mobile phones.

Multipling up the Plague Marines has other problems. they are very nice but each is very individual, and then to spam very individual very detailed modesl doesnt really work. Thank Nurlge its Nurlge though. I can tentacle up head swap or otherwise warp the Plague Marines I get into something worthwhile.


I noticed that Vincent Knotley's readout didnt say how many basic plague marines we get. My eyes are not the best and I dont recognisse most of the models can someone with a copy of the poster count out the Plague Marines please. I would like to get a better idea of how many Issue 2 I will need to buy to get a reasonable sized force of basic marines for Death Guard.


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 SHUPPET wrote:
So it's not available in Australia, right?


Maybe. I have amended the OP to include information on this issue. Good luck. Let's hope Bissett Mags can open the door for you.

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A what? In intersserorororeer box?

That's such a cool typo.

I also like the Incepteararararooons

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leopard wrote:
Was thinking of an actual intersserorororeer box and doing a bit of cutting up


So am I, but I will wait to get mine for £7.99, at the cost of having it appear randomly sometime between now and 2020.
Because they are two pairs of twin sprues it is very likely we will get the multipart intersserorororeer split over two issues, so it will be £15 for all ten.

One of the things I am looking forward to as a subscriber is doubling up on key issue throughout the project when what they have on offer is of particularly good value.
The dreadnought might be split over two issues, unlikely more than that, there is a lot of stuff to be parsed between 80 issues, even so I will be buying extra copies of that. Multiple Primaris dreadnoughts bought for multiples of £7.99, yes please. I will be looking very carefully at the breakdown throughout the project..

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So, what exactly is this Warhammer Conquest thing? I'm not really much for videos or giant walls of text. Sounds like a 40k hobby magazine subscription that comes with junk.



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I've had issues with Hachette in the past. I subscribed to the Warhammer Legends novel series when that launched, and they cancelled my subscription before sending anything. They didn't even attempt to get in touch with me!

No idea why they did this (my payment method seemed to be valid and I didn't care enough to chase them up), but I'd recommend that anyone who subscribes keeps an eye out in case it happens to them. According to the Facebook page anyone who subscribed before 31st August should have their first delivery by Saturday 8th September.

I still subscribed to Conquest despite my reservations - I don't have much terrain, have just started a Death Guard army (the Dred in my avatar is one of them) and already have a Blood Angels army with no Primaris models, so I'm one of the rare 40K collectors who can take full advantage of this!

Oh, and the starter brush is just terrible.

 Orlanth wrote:

We get a box worth of 10 Intercessors later, I dont know when. I am looking at holding back work until this is done.


I hate to say this, but the models on the poster really look like they're snap fit intercessors from the Dark Imperium set - the poses are identical (same with the Plague Marines). It doesn't look like we'll be getting any of the multipart models, which will make converting really difficult.

 darkcloak wrote:
So, what exactly is this Warhammer Conquest thing? I'm not really much for videos or giant walls of text. Sounds like a 40k hobby magazine subscription that comes with junk.


Yep. Costs about £32 a month for 80 weeks, about £600-ish total, and you get a bunch of snap fit Death Guard, Primaris and Terrain. Great value if it's all stuff you want, but if you don't collect both armies not sure if it's worth it IMO.

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 darkcloak wrote:
So, what exactly is this Warhammer Conquest thing? I'm not really much for videos or giant walls of text. Sounds like a 40k hobby magazine subscription that comes with junk.


20 second videos too long?

Giant walls of text?

Poor fellow. I wonder how you will cope when you discover films and books.



 GMSchofield wrote:
I've had issues with Hachette in the past. I subscribed to the Warhammer Legends novel series when that launched, and they cancelled my subscription before sending anything. They didn't even attempt to get in touch with me!


I havent received my starter letter with my subscription details. Though the DD is set up on my banking app.


 darkcloak wrote:

I still subscribed to Conquest despite my reservations - I don't have much terrain, have just started a Death Guard army (the Dred in my avatar is one of them) and already have a Blood Angels army with no Primaris models, so I'm one of the rare 40K collectors who can take full advantage of this!


Me too. I have old school marines, no chaos at all and am willing to give the terrain a go.

 darkcloak wrote:

Oh, and the starter brush is just terrible.


You mean that excellent disposable varnish brush.

 darkcloak wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:

We get a box worth of 10 Intercessors later, I dont know when. I am looking at holding back work until this is done.


I hate to say this, but the models on the poster really look like they're snap fit intercessors from the Dark Imperium set - the poses are identical (same with the Plague Marines). It doesn't look like we'll be getting any of the multipart models, which will make converting really difficult.


I am not qualified to tell; but doubt GW will make new models for Hachette when existing ones will do, exception for the exclusive mini.
In which case we get this covering six of the issues. I am ok with that. All the models of Dark Imperium for £48

Dark Imperium contents
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I will look see what sprues I want multiple of. Can anyone provide a beakdown sprue by sprue. If some modelsare split between sprues it will be helpful to know, they will come in a single delivery batch.




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 darkcloak wrote:
So, what exactly is this Warhammer Conquest thing? I'm not really much for videos or giant walls of text. Sounds like a 40k hobby magazine subscription that comes with junk.


Yep. Costs about £32 a month for 80 weeks, about £600-ish total, and you get a bunch of snap fit Death Guard, Primaris and Terrain. Great value if it's all stuff you want, but if you don't collect both armies not sure if it's worth it IMO.


Serious answer: Are you prepared to make a subscription that will cost you over £600 split over the next eighteen months, if it gives you a decent discount on hobby supplies and models?

Yes - Take you time to read all the text, and then look for more info elsewhere on Warhammer 40000 Conquest and be 100% aware of what you are signing up for and what benefit you are getting and if it is for you.

No - Carry on and enjoy your day.

Tip: Never TLDR a financial commitment.

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 Orlanth wrote:


I havent received my starter letter with my subscription details. Though the DD is set up on my banking app.

I am not qualified to tell; but doubt GW will make new models for Hachette when existing ones will do, exception for the exclusive mini.
In which case we get this covering six of the issues. I am ok with that. All the models of Dark Imperium for £48


I haven't received a letter either, but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that people who subscribe online will only get an e-mail, and a letter is just for the people who subscribed by post. Can't find it though, so I might have imagined that.

I suspect that the exclusive mini (and maybe the Space Wolf from Tooth and Claw) was sculpted alongside the Blood Angel / Dark Angel lieutenants and held back for a later release - if they were going to sculpt an all new mini just for the partwork, you'd think they'd sculpt one for the new chapter that has been made up just for the series! This is just wild speculation on my part though.

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GW have done one off plastics before, and a single exclusive miniature for Conquest is something Hachette would have been wise to negotiate for.

Some people are really into completionism and its an incentive to subscribe. If I buy an extra copy of Issue 5 it will be as a gift for someone. It is a nice sculpt but nothing I desperately need.

That being said I will keep mine.

n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.

It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. 
   
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 Orlanth wrote:
leopard wrote:
Was thinking of an actual intersserorororeer box and doing a bit of cutting up


So am I, but I will wait to get mine for £7.99, at the cost of having it appear randomly sometime between now and 2020.
Because they are two pairs of twin sprues it is very likely we will get the multipart intersserorororeer split over two issues, so it will be £15 for all ten.

One of the things I am looking forward to as a subscriber is doubling up on key issue throughout the project when what they have on offer is of particularly good value.
The dreadnought might be split over two issues, unlikely more than that, there is a lot of stuff to be parsed between 80 issues, even so I will be buying extra copies of that. Multiple Primaris dreadnoughts bought for multiples of £7.99, yes please. I will be looking very carefully at the breakdown throughout the project..


I strongly suspect the 10 other ones are from the DI starter set as the rest of the starter is in there. The DN will be the "easy build" version as well, I also doubt if by then you will be able to get single back copies (though buying a load of four is still worth it depending what its packed with).

What would be interesting is someone who knows the kits putting a sprue count together which may give a bit of a guide here
   
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress






Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.

leopard wrote:


I strongly suspect the 10 other ones are from the DI starter set as the rest of the starter is in there. The DN will be the "easy build" version as well, I also doubt if by then you will be able to get single back copies (though buying a load of four is still worth it depending what its packed with).


That is the real magic and where a savvy subscriber can make their best savings. Hachette will have back issues on stock at £7.99 each on their website. They will appear here:

https://hachettepartworks.com/warhammer-40000-conquest

They normally cover stock for six months after completion, or until sold out. Though for some issues we will need to move fast. As subscribers we can have the extra copies added to the next delivery eliminating the P&P.

leopard wrote:

What would be interesting is someone who knows the kits putting a sprue count together which may give a bit of a guide here


Been trying that, but as you say, we need someone who can ID all the kits.

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Canada

I didn't say anything about brushes!

Yeah those books and films are rough. Was pretty hard to get through The Hobbit so I could cover my entire torso in a themed tattoo...

Didn't they make a movie of that one???



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Manchester

 Orlanth wrote:


Been trying that, but as you say, we need someone who can ID all the kits.


I'm pretty confident that this is everything on the Death Guard side of things. Not a bad selection, but almost entirely easy-build kits.

The three easy build Plague Marines being doubled up is annoying, as you'd end up with four champions for two squads - to make it worthwhile you pretty much have to add a multi-part plague marine box for converting the duplicate champion / adding more troops.

Some of the sprues are pretty small (the chaos upgrades for the Rhino, the Lord and his Terminators), so could realistically be doubled up on an issue. There are 29 DG sprues total, so if the marines have a similar number of sprues some issues will have to come with two sprues in order to fit everything in alongside the terrain.

HQ
Typhus (1 Sprue)
Lord Felthius & 3 Cohort Terminators (3 Sprues)

Troops
Plague Marine Champion (1 Sprue)
Plague Marine Icon Bearer (1 Sprue)
3 Easy Build Plague Marines (1 Sprue)
3 Easy Build Plague Marines Again (1 Sprue)
6 Easy Build Poxwalkers (1 Sprue)
6 Easy Build Poxwalkers Again (1 Sprue)
5 Chaos Cultists (1 Sprue)
5 Chaos Cultists Again (1 Sprue)

Elites
Plague Surgeon (1 Sprue)
Foul Blightspawn (1 Sprue)
Biologus Putrifier (1 Sprue)
Tallyman (1 Sprue)

Fast Attack
Chaos Spawn (2 Sprues)
Blight Hauler (1 Sprue)

Heavy Support
Plagueburst Crawler (2 Sprues)

Transport
Chaos Rhino (5 Sprues!)

Dark Imperium (4 Sprues) -Lord of Contagion, Plaguecaster, 7 Plaguemarines, 20 Poxwalkers, Bloat Drone

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