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hello im testing couple of lists im still unsure which one is better, everyone want send me some feedbacks will be much appreciated

1st

i get more infantry mass and the spoilpox


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Daemons) [47 PL, 873pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Nurgle

Rewards of Chaos (1 Relic)

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Chaos [9 PL, 180pts]: Corruption, Hellforged sword, Wings
. Nurgle: Virulent Blessing

Poxbringer [4 PL, 70pts]: Miasma of Pestilence

Spoilpox Scrivener [4 PL, 75pts]

+ Troops +

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Plaguebearers [12 PL, 220pts]: Instrument of Chaos, 29x Plaguebearer, Plagueridden

Plaguebearers [12 PL, 220pts]: Instrument of Chaos, 29x Plaguebearer, Plagueridden

++ Super-Heavy Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Questor Traitoris) [27 PL, 522pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 174pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 174pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 174pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [33 PL, 600pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: 4. Blades of Putrefaction, 6. Arch-Contaminator, Malefic talon, The Suppurating Plate, Warlord, Wings

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

++ Total: [107 PL, 1995pts] ++

2nd


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Daemons) [31 PL, 578pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Nurgle

Rewards of Chaos (1 Relic)

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Chaos [9 PL, 180pts]: Corruption, Hellforged sword, Wings
. Nurgle: Virulent Blessing

Poxbringer [4 PL, 70pts]: Miasma of Pestilence

+ Troops +

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Plaguebearers [12 PL, 220pts]: Instrument of Chaos, 29x Plaguebearer, Plagueridden

++ Super-Heavy Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Questor Traitoris) [43 PL, 821pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 174pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 174pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

Renegade Knight [25 PL, 473pts]: Heavy stubber
. Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer
. Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [33 PL, 600pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: 4. Blades of Putrefaction, 6. Arch-Contaminator, Malefic talon, The Suppurating Plate, Warlord, Wings

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

++ Total: [107 PL, 1999pts] ++

Add the weight of renegade Ik and lot of dakka but just 30 plaguebearers, btw with miasma of pestilence they should be durable enough

3rd



++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Daemons) [62 PL, 1106pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Nurgle

Rewards of Chaos (1 Relic)

+ HQ +

Poxbringer [4 PL, 70pts]: Miasma of Pestilence

Spoilpox Scrivener [4 PL, 75pts]

+ Troops +

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Plaguebearers [12 PL, 220pts]: Instrument of Chaos, 29x Plaguebearer, Plagueridden

Plaguebearers [12 PL, 213pts]: Instrument of Chaos, 28x Plaguebearer, Plagueridden

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [27 PL, 540pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch [9 PL, 180pts]: Gaze of Fate, Malefic talon, Weaver of Fates, Wings

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch [9 PL, 180pts]: Daemonic axe, Prescience, Warptime, Wings

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch [9 PL, 180pts]: Bolt of Change, Death Hex, Malefic talon, Warlord, Wings

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Chaos - Questor Traitoris) [18 PL, 348pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Renegade Armigers [18 PL, 348pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

++ Total: [107 PL, 1994pts] ++

This one rely on Ts supreme command but im not sure worth lose demons and Dg stratagems
Any feedback is welcome, thx

I prefer the 2nd list.

"Corruption" is damage D3...what a shame! It really could be designed as a damage 3 weapon.

"Daemon" tag on PBC is keyword, not faction keyword. That would stop the detachment being a Chaos Daemon detachment, but a "Nurgle detachment". So your 3rd list is not fully functional.

yes pity for the D3 damage, the only alternative is Korne Dp but i found it very squishy, third list i know has that weakness, but that's the only way to get both PBC and helverins, thx for the feedback at least you stopped by writing something not just click and look the list like the other 77, appreciated.

To be honest I would say I like the first one more, although it's a tough choice, they all look really powerful ^^`

most depend what you think to face more, 30 pb's might be enough some games some others aren't, helverins sometimes are very effective sometimes sucks, the big Ik keep at bay hordes and multiwounds light units, put into the fray some extra heavy CaC when needed, i guess i will bring the 2nd one at next two incoming tournaments, i sacrifice some infantry mass but the weight of double gatling IK re relling all to hit rolls is a thing no one can underestimate, of course if you lost 1st turn 400+ points model might be a problem, but for what i seen that list didn't rely on single models, in the meanwhile you take care of Ik the rest can seriously damage you and score points with Pb's and nurglings.

 blackmage wrote:
yes pity for the D3 damage, the only alternative is Korne Dp but i found it very squishy, third list i know has that weakness, but that's the only way to get both PBC and helverins, thx for the feedback at least you stopped by writing something not just click and look the list like the other 77, appreciated.

Khorne skullreaver DP is a potential (one-use) tiebreaker.

Yeah, one-use. Need to burn many CPs on him, to throw expendable units eating owerwatch for him, and he would die the next turn after charge. But when facing "hunt down that Knight, or concede" situation, he may be your only hope.

Just similar to... a BA Angelwing-smash-captain. "Normal"(TSon and Plated-DG) DPs are excellent on their own, but would never work in that way.

I don't like the third list, and I think that the second rely too much on a big target that many lists can bring down in just one turn.
Against a knight list or a gunline your lonely knight is vulnerable because is the only appealing target.
I agree with Tokugawa, a khorne prince with skullreaver is chaos best tool agaiinst knights.

 brugner8 wrote:
I don't like the third list, and I think that the second rely too much on a big target that many lists can bring down in just one turn.
Against a knight list or a gunline your lonely knight is vulnerable because is the only appealing target.
I agree with Tokugawa, a khorne prince with skullreaver is chaos best tool agaiinst knights.

yes maybe you right but...this is just same core list like BAO winner list (beside terminators i swapped for Nurgle battalion) and i dont really rely on knight to win.

I like the second list the best I love the twin cannon knight. A thought I have been using c beam contemptor dreads to great effect on both knights and hordes.

yes i agree on contemptors but here in Italy in some tournaments FW isn't permitted so i need to make lists which i can play everywhere,

 blackmage wrote:
yes i agree on contemptors but here in Italy in some tournaments FW isn't permitted so i need to make lists which i can play everywhere,

Most of italian organizers thinks that if they allowed FW units sky will fall down and Ragnarok come. If dare to ask why they simple run away screaming

90% wont allow cause they can sell FW so they are against let it play, this is the answer i mostly got.