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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/25 00:17:00
Subject: Different Tau Shield Drone Question (Mortal Wounds)
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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When say an opponent targets one of your infantry or battlesuits that a friendly shield drone can intercept with like Smite or Hellfire Shells Strategem, do the shield drones reduce the potentially multiple mortal wounds to one mortal wound? Does smite even count as an attack?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/25 05:16:12
Subject: Different Tau Shield Drone Question (Mortal Wounds)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Mortal Wounds are essentially multiple D1 attacks with special rules. Read the MW rules carefully. Each MW counts as a separate attack.
The “is a psychic power an attack?” has been endlessly debated by some. It very obviously is an attack. It’s not a psychic hug; it’s designed to kill.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/25 08:01:49
Subject: Different Tau Shield Drone Question (Mortal Wounds)
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Norn Queen
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exploited751 wrote:When say an opponent targets one of your infantry or battlesuits that a friendly shield drone can intercept with like Smite or Hellfire Shells Strategem, do the shield drones reduce the potentially multiple mortal wounds to one mortal wound? Does smite even count as an attack?
Each mortal wound has to be rolled for. A mortal wound is just a single damage wound with two extra rules, it automatically wounds and you can't make saves against it. If a unit was hit by smite for 3 mortal wounds you would have to make 3 attempts to intercept.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/25 17:22:20
Subject: Different Tau Shield Drone Question (Mortal Wounds)
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/25 19:51:58
Subject: Different Tau Shield Drone Question (Mortal Wounds)
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
Phoenix, AZ, USA
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But unlike most units, Shield Drones do get a save versus any Mortal Wound suffered per their Shield Generator rule.
SJ
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“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/25 20:08:45
Subject: Different Tau Shield Drone Question (Mortal Wounds)
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Norn Queen
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jeffersonian000 wrote:But unlike most units, Shield Drones do get a save versus any Mortal Wound suffered per their Shield Generator rule. SJ
You're asking for a nitpick there. "Ignore Wounds" rolls are not saves and never will be. The entire reason the Shield Drone gets to roll to ignore wounds is explicitly because it is not a save.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/26 06:29:54
Subject: Re:Different Tau Shield Drone Question (Mortal Wounds)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Smite is not an attack in the sense of the rules. An attack is with a ranged weapon or with a melee weapon, the rules tell you to make attacks with those. Smite is not an attack, you simply suffer MW as a result of a successful smite. Shield drones cannot intercept smites or other MW inflicted by psychic powers, because they are not attacks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/26 06:44:35
Subject: Re:Different Tau Shield Drone Question (Mortal Wounds)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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p5freak wrote:Smite is not an attack in the sense of the rules. An attack is with a ranged weapon or with a melee weapon, the rules tell you to make attacks with those. Smite is not an attack, you simply suffer MW as a result of a successful smite. Shield drones cannot intercept smites or other MW inflicted by psychic powers, because they are not attacks.
Here we go again...
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/26 17:26:54
Subject: Different Tau Shield Drone Question (Mortal Wounds)
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
Phoenix, AZ, USA
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BaconCatBug wrote: jeffersonian000 wrote:But unlike most units, Shield Drones do get a save versus any Mortal Wound suffered per their Shield Generator rule.
SJ
You're asking for a nitpick there.
"Ignore Wounds" rolls are not saves and never will be. The entire reason the Shield Drone gets to roll to ignore wounds is explicitly because it is not a save.
Shield Generator specifically states that any Wounds lost can be ignored on d6 roll, so not sure where the nitpick is unless the goal is to be pedantic over the common term “save”.
SJ
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“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/26 19:08:57
Subject: Re:Different Tau Shield Drone Question (Mortal Wounds)
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Confessor Of Sins
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There are multiple rules that impact Saves that do not apply to Ignore Wounds rules. It is therefore good form to never refer to one as the other
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/28 14:19:55
Subject: Re:Different Tau Shield Drone Question (Mortal Wounds)
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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JohnnyHell wrote: p5freak wrote:Smite is not an attack in the sense of the rules. An attack is with a ranged weapon or with a melee weapon, the rules tell you to make attacks with those. Smite is not an attack, you simply suffer MW as a result of a successful smite. Shield drones cannot intercept smites or other MW inflicted by psychic powers, because they are not attacks.
Here we go again...
Well, he's right. New FAQ:
Q: For the purposes of the Saviour Protocols ability, what exactly
constitutes an attack?
A: In this context, it is an attack made with a ranged or
melee weapon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/28 14:33:21
Subject: Re:Different Tau Shield Drone Question (Mortal Wounds)
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Norn Queen
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Jacksmiles wrote: JohnnyHell wrote: p5freak wrote:Smite is not an attack in the sense of the rules. An attack is with a ranged weapon or with a melee weapon, the rules tell you to make attacks with those. Smite is not an attack, you simply suffer MW as a result of a successful smite. Shield drones cannot intercept smites or other MW inflicted by psychic powers, because they are not attacks.
Here we go again...
Well, he's right. New FAQ:
Q: For the purposes of the Saviour Protocols ability, what exactly
constitutes an attack?
A: In this context, it is an attack made with a ranged or
melee weapon.
To be fair, he made that post before the new FAQ.
Hooray for clarifying ambiguous rules though patchwork FAQs instead of writing the rules properly!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/28 15:23:01
Subject: Re:Different Tau Shield Drone Question (Mortal Wounds)
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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BaconCatBug wrote:Jacksmiles wrote: JohnnyHell wrote: p5freak wrote:Smite is not an attack in the sense of the rules. An attack is with a ranged weapon or with a melee weapon, the rules tell you to make attacks with those. Smite is not an attack, you simply suffer MW as a result of a successful smite. Shield drones cannot intercept smites or other MW inflicted by psychic powers, because they are not attacks.
Here we go again...
Well, he's right. New FAQ:
Q: For the purposes of the Saviour Protocols ability, what exactly
constitutes an attack?
A: In this context, it is an attack made with a ranged or
melee weapon.
To be fair, he made that post before the new FAQ.
Hooray for clarifying ambiguous rules though patchwork FAQs instead of writing the rules properly!
That doesn't make him wrong at the time, to be fair.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/28 15:51:31
Subject: Re:Different Tau Shield Drone Question (Mortal Wounds)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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He was wrong at that time. Smite was not an attack back then, and now its confirmed that it isnt.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/28 16:18:04
Subject: Re:Different Tau Shield Drone Question (Mortal Wounds)
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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p5freak wrote: He was wrong at that time. Smite was not an attack back then, and now its confirmed that it isnt. "him" is you. I might have mixed up who BCB was saying was "him," but mine was you. If BCB meant "he" to be JohnnyHell without saying so when "he" was previously you would be grammatically confusing. If you check the context, I said you were right as the first post I made in here. Edit: clarification.
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