Worst (Weakest) codex in 8th?

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**Arth-Rytis**

Now that we are 1.5 years into 8th edition, what have you found to be the best(strongest) Codex, and what would you say is the worst(weakest)? Do you feel that 8th edition has evened the playing field for all armies, or do you feel that there is still a clear best and worst? Has there been a codex that turned out to be a pleasant surprise for you? And has there been one that you feel was a complete disappointment?

**wuestenfux**

Worst codex: GK
Best codex: Drukhari

**hobojebus**

Worst imperial is grey knights, worst xenos necrons by far.

Best is obviously guard for imperial and I'd say Eldar for xenos.

Balance is terrible the various factions are no where near equel.

There have been no pleasant surprises for me just crushing disappointments.

**tneva82**

Gk/drukhari for worst and best easily. In particular gk. Only faction orks feel genuinely sorry for

**Darsath**

It really depends on what you mean by best. Is it just strongest book, or best written. Since I think that Eldar is the strongest codex (maybe Drukhari or Guard), but the best written overall seems to be Tyranids. As for worst, Grey Knights, possibly in both categories. Necrons are pretty bad too though.

**wuestenfux**

Could we please get a poll here?

**Dr. Mills**

Weakest: Grey Knights by a country mile. The poor old 5th edition cheesemongers are a pitiful shadow that we're easily stomped by INDEX armies. Needs a serious rework to be viable.

Best: A tough one, but going from internal balance and synergy it has to be the Drukhari codex. Very strong but has to be played to it's strengths and as such, it's definitely NOT a beginner friendly army but my god it's a rewarding one to play.

**HoundsofDemos**

Grey Knights are probably the weakest codex that is clearly meant to at least try to be a mono codex. While some of the mini factions are technically worse, they were designed to not be a stand alone army. Otherwise Inquisition or the RT are probably the worst I've personally played with/against.

Strongest with out allies is probably Eldar/DE, with a good argument to be made either way. Allies help both books but they don't need them to do well.

**Booger ork**

Gellerpox infected. Do they even do anything?

**momerathe**

GK at least have the option of souping. Necrons, not so much.

**HoundsofDemos**

momerathe wrote:
GK at least have the option of souping. Necrons, not so much.

While Necrons really could use some love as well, that's basically saying that adding some potatoes and spices to a pot of bleach (grey knights) will make a better soup. That might be true but that soup is still going to kill you.

**Alex_85**

Gk worst, but they have the option to soup. But yes, GK and not far away Necrons

**Cinderspirit**

I voted Chaos Daemons, the book contains a bunch of okayish units and a truck load of bad units. It's kinda okay for souping in a unit or two into a Chaos Soup styled army, but a really bad book on it's own. Mono Nurgle might work, Tzeentch is already borderline and Khorne and Slaanesh autolose most match ups. Also the book has only a small count of stratagems, 7 generic (most books got 10+) and 12 god specific (which sounds a lot, but most Daemon armys will have access to 3-6 of those.) Also it's the only book not getting Legion rules. Yes you are getting Loci, so you can argue you have 1 Legion rule per god. But that's pretty boring when compared to Drukhari, which are the most comparable codex.

I haven't faced/played/seen GKs in 8th, so I just comment on my experience.

**LunarSol**

Grey Knights aren't even really functional as Allies. They are a liability in any situation you can come up with. There's really no contest.

**Marmatag**

The only vote is Grey Knights.

Every single codex in 8th edition can win games on its own except Grey Knights. Even with allies, picking from Imperium, the best overall faction, Grey Knights struggle more than any other faction.

Necrons are flatly better than Grey Knights.

**ChargerIIC**

Ah, a salt contest. I love these!

**iGuy91**

I'm a Necron player. I absolutely agree that GK is the worst off at least in a competitive, non-souping sense. Necrons aren't too far behind in that regard.

Solo codex army...the strongest sticks out to me as Drukhari. They get the tools they need for cheap, and get a lot of them, with the mobility needed to win objective games.

**Grimtuff**

Booger ork wrote:
Gellerpox infected. Do they even do anything?

Glitchlings are good cheap ass objective grabbers that are hard to shift due to the models being so tiny. But that's it.

Main problem with them is the units are limited to what is in the KTRT box. I'd take gak loads of Vox Shamblers if you could have more than 3 and more than one unit.

**Darsath**

Some madman thinks that Drukhari are the weakest codex? Fantastic.

**Slayer-Fan123**

tneva82 wrote:
Gk/drukhari for worst and best easily. In particular gk. Only faction orks feel genuinely sorry for

Dude just stop. The Ork codex is fine.

**Grimtuff**

Darsath wrote:
Some madman thinks that Drukhari are the weakest codex? Fantastic.

It's Karol. Definitely Karol.

**NH Gunsmith**

Grimtuff wrote:
Darsath wrote:
Some madman thinks that Drukhari are the weakest codex? Fantastic.

It's Karol. Definitely Karol.

I am more shocked that; A) it wasn't Karol who started this thread, and B) Karol hasn't posted in this thread yet.