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Made in pl
Fresh-Faced New User




Hi guys,
What's Your opinion bout this? I made it up for a local tournament. Looking forward to hearing back from You!

1000 points - tactical force

HQ:
- Chaplain (jump pack, inferno pistol) - 110
- Sanguinary Priest (jump pack, inferno pistol, power axe) - 111

Troops:
- 5x Tactical Marines (rocket launcher) - 90

Elite:
- 5x Death Company Marine (4x power axe, thunder hammer) - 140

- 5x Vanguard Veteran (thunder hammer, 2x lightning claw, 2x plasma pistols) - 140

- 5x Sanguinary Guard - 110

Heavy support:
- Predator (twin lascannon, heavy bolters) - 172

- Baal Predator (twin assault cannon, heavy bolters) - 127

Total: 1000 points

Organisation:
- DC goes with Chaplain
- SG goes with Sanguinary Priest and goes for elite enemy units
- Vanguard Veterans deep strike at the very end to conquer contested enemy objectives
- Predator looks for enemy tanks/heavy guys
- Baal runs for his life shooting every infantry he can see
- My favourite pretty, sweaty, tactical marines stand in the back, capture objective, got hidden into cover and generally they just are
   
Made in au
Fresh-Faced New User




Ok mate, I'll get you started. There's some funny stuff going on with your list (apologies in advance if I come off a bit harsh, genuine questions)

What detachment are you running this as? Vanguard? I'm not sure i've seen a tactical force with no CP in 8th ed yet

I checked the DC squad, either I have a faulty version of battle scribe or your DC is 136pts with a TH and 4x axes and jump packs
Your Sang Guard are off too, 35pts each, so 175 for 5 but you can do a squad of 4 for 140

Is this list your go-to competitive build for the meta your in or are you playing the models you have? either is good for me but you have some room
for a more competitive list. Start by downloading the latest in battle scribe for you phone or PC and punch the list in. Way easier then flipping through
a codex and doing the math by hand. You'll still need your codex for the tournament, and to print out any FAQ's that effect your list (especially points values)

As it is I punched your list into BattleScribe and got 1059 Pts. so we need to cut some weight


Now that we've crunched through that, re-the list itself. I'm a BA player too and recently been thinking a lot about smaller lists, you have some choices to make
Are you set on having a lot of your list JP across the board turn 2 and try and get into melee that way? or do you want some more infantry and objective holders
and let your tanks do some work while you move up from cover to cover. I'm enjoying smaller 1000-1500 pts games because the force you to think and choose
a bit more instead of having 1 of everything

So with the list you have you could run your Tac squad as a Devastator Squad, drop the inferno pistols from your HQ's and you'll have a Vanguard and Spearhead
detachment. That'll get you 3cp for being battle forged a 1 for each detachment. So 5. You'l have to choose wich HQ starts on the board, but you can have 1 in
reserves with all your JP units, do a turn of shooting then turn 2 try for the assault as your tanks roll across the board. you can re-deploy your HQ that started with
the tanks for 2 cp to catch up with the infantry and see how many charges land

Might not be super competitive, but its a fun way to play and a short game's a good game. I think you have some reading to do and rules to check up on, let us know if you
have any more BA to swap into your list (scouts? intercessors? more Tac Marines?) or questions

   
Made in ca
Regular Dakkanaut




You definitely want more CP in a BA army so you can use all those juicy Strategems. Scouts are the easiest/cheapest way to get a nice Battalion
   
Made in pl
Fresh-Faced New User




Yea, Vanguard
I do have some other BA staff - dreads, razorbacks, vindicators, tacticals, librarians etc but I just prefer to play with my jump packs, just for fun . I was thinking bout exchanging tactical with devs as well. This Tactical is 90 points, devastators with lascannon: 65 (marines) + 4x 25 (lascannons) is 165 points. What about Baal Predator? Is it sufficiently efficient ? I like my tactical marines but can of course exchange them with some Scouts with Sniper Rifles. What will be the best option to exchange in Your opinion guys? You can change as many models as you think it is needed. Just wanna play with DC (loving them) and some tanks
   
Made in de
Nihilistic Necron Lord






Germany

Predators are overpriced. A razorback with twin AC is 30 points cheaper than a baal pred, has only one less wound, and can transport 6 infantry models. Same with the normal predator. A razorback with twin LC is 20 points cheaper than a twin LC predator, has only one less wound, and can transport 6 infantry models.

If you go the dev squad route use cherub, LC, ML, HB and PC, plus some more marines as ablative wounds, if you can afford them. The cherub can reload flakk missile and hellfire shells stratagems for 2D3 MW.

Every BA army must include a captain slamguinius, who is capable of killing an imperial knight in one turn. Thats a captain with JP, TH and SS.

DC without lemartes is wasted points.

Sang guard should go with a company ancient with the standard of sacrifice, if he is the warlord sang guard can re-roll failed hit rolls within 6".

Here is a sample list i would play, you could replace the boltguns on the scouts for combat knives and use two chainswords on the sarge, to make them more killy in melee :

Spoiler:

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) [61 PL, 1000pts] ++

+ HQ +

Captain [6 PL, 129pts]: 2. Artisan of War, The Angels wings, Storm shield, Thunder hammer, Warlord

Lemartes [7 PL, 129pts]

+ Troops +

Scout Squad [4 PL, 55pts]
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Scout Squad [4 PL, 55pts]
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Scout Squad [4 PL, 55pts]
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

+ Elites +

Death Company [18 PL, 192pts]: Jump Pack
. Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Death Company Marine: Thunder hammer
. Death Company Marine: Thunder hammer
. Death Company Marine: Boltgun, Chainsword

+ Heavy Support +

Devastator Squad [8 PL, 151pts]: Armorium Cherub
. Space Marine: Plasma cannon
. Space Marine: Missile launcher
. Space Marine: Lascannon
. Space Marine: Heavy bolter
. Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun

+ Dedicated Transport +

Razorback [5 PL, 114pts]: Twin assault cannon

Razorback [5 PL, 120pts]: Twin lascannon

++ Total: [61 PL, 1000pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe











   
Made in pl
Fresh-Faced New User




Hi, i made up sth like this now:

Spearhead detachment + Vanguard detachment (2CP)

HQ:
Slamginius - 129
Chaplain - 90

Elite:
DC - TH, PA, PA, bolt pistol & chainsword x2 - 126
Sanguinary Ancient - 101
SG - 140

Heavy Support:
Devs - Herub, las, las, missle, boltgun x2
Devs - Herub, heavy bolter x4, boltgun
Predator - Twin lascannon, heavy bolter x2

Total: 999 points


I am also thinking about really small forces for 750 points. Is it even available to make sth for more than 1CP?

   
Made in ca
Regular Dakkanaut




I would really recommend going with p5freak's list. He has troops, CP to spend on cool combos, unit synergies that should be fun to trigger, and armor to block LOS and be a pain. It also satisfies all the criteria you mentioned earlier.
   
 
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