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I have nothing to do at work today and I'm bored, so I decided to create a table of faction dispositions for my Dark Angels.

Do you agree with my suppositions? What would the dispositions of your army be? Why? How would you change my scale? What adjectives would you use instead?

Chart for DA, doesn’t have “The Fallen” and question marks for “Blind Hatred”.

I know you guys love your secrets, but we know what goes there.

Also, a little harsh on the Ultras.

 Nevelon wrote:
Chart for DA, doesn’t have “The Fallen” and question marks for “Blind Hatred”.

I know you guys love your secrets, but we know what goes there.

Also, a little harsh on the Ultras.

I believe the Dark Angels are the only major chapter to have explicitly resisted the Ultima Founding, and basically had to be strong armed by Guilliman. Makes sense that their opinion would be rather low of him and his legion.

Going to hold a grudge for 10,000 years?

Oh wait, Dark Angels. Nevermind...

Dark angels have a blind hatred of anything Xenos or mutant too, old white dwarf story had them abandoning a load of guard because they had an ogryn with them

I'm fairly sure Tyranids belong at the bottom considering how many stories there are of rapidly made alliances of former enemies on the field in order to deal with a sudden Tyranid fleet.

They are the ultra threat way above most other Xeno forces

I would have labeled all of those other chapters under Detached Indifference along with the guard.

I'm not sure that the Dark Angels have any specific problem with the Blood Angels? The most surprising part of Angels of Caliban for me was when the Lion actually displayed an emotion about something (somewhat rare for him), and that it was even more surprisingly, if I'm recalling this right, love for Sanguinius. Which, as far as I know, is maybe the only time I've seen an account of him feeling love towards...well, anyone, really? Please feel free to correct me, as I'm not yet finished through all of the existing DA lore. I could be missing a whole book that the chapters spend bickering with each other.

Everyone loved Sanguinius, except Sanguinius.

It seems obvious now that not giving justifications for my choices was a bit odd. Anyway...

Nevelon wrote:Chart for DA, doesn’t have “The Fallen” and question marks for “Blind Hatred”.

I know you guys love your secrets, but we know what goes there.

Also, a little harsh on the Ultras.

My justification for that is simply their relationship with Guilliman, whom I am certain they have their misgivings about after his return.

Formosa wrote:Dark angels have a blind hatred of anything Xenos or mutant too, old white dwarf story had them abandoning a load of guard because they had an ogryn with them

I'm sure that's true too. The only reason I didn't put them on the lowest tier is because I know they will do pretty much whatever it takes in their hunt for the Fallen, including forging temporary alliances with aliens, but perhaps my choice of adjective doesn't really do justice to this tier. I'd be happy to hear your suggestions.

Overread wrote:I'm fairly sure Tyranids belong at the bottom considering how many stories there are of rapidly made alliances of former enemies on the field in order to deal with a sudden Tyranid fleet.

They are the ultra threat way above most other Xeno forces

I agree. However the problem with Tyranids isn't necessarily a matter of hatred, but more to do with an absolute necessity, and the fact that it's more or less impossible to ally with something as single mindedly relentless as the Tyrannids. That said, it's my own personal opinion that the Unforgiven would willingly abandon a fight against the Tyrannids if they thought it would help aid their hunt of the fallen, hence their placement on a lower tier.

Kelligula wrote:I would have labeled all of those other chapters under Detached Indifference along with the guard.

Interesting. I had it that way originally, but then I felt I was being a bit harsh. I might move them all back down a tier, but leave the Raven Guard. My rationale for that is that I once read somewhere (or imagined, perhaps) that the Ravenwing have some origin connection to Corvus Corax, and they might feel some sort of mild admiration for his chapter. Anyone know if there's any truth to this, or did I just dream it up?

AdmirableGoal wrote:I'm not sure that the Dark Angels have any specific problem with the Blood Angels? The most surprising part of Angels of Caliban for me was when the Lion actually displayed an emotion about something (somewhat rare for him), and that it was even more surprisingly, if I'm recalling this right, love for Sanguinius. Which, as far as I know, is maybe the only time I've seen an account of him feeling love towards...well, anyone, really? Please feel free to correct me, as I'm not yet finished through all of the existing DA lore. I could be missing a whole book that the chapters spend bickering with each other.

I'm definitely not aware of any such animosity either. In fact, I originally had the Blood Angels placed under "sympathetic compassion" all by themselves, but then I got to thinking about the Dark Angels opiniions of the Black Rage, and how that might affect their disposition towards them, even in spite of Sanguinius's legendary status. Actually, one thing I'm not clear on is how well known the Black Rage is throughout the Imperium. Is it common knowledge, or is it a "secret" like the Dark Angels' "shenanigans"?

Also, how do you guys feel about "haughty condescension" being placed below detached indifference? I like the descriptor, but I feel like it could be a sort of likable condescension rather than a dislike, so I was thinking of putting it one tier above detached indifference.