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I have this really annoying and money wasting problem where I get into an army, buy a heap and then get bored of them, and then buy a new army to get bored of and so on. In AoS, I've stuck with the same force of Free People's allied with Stormcast for years. I've been playing 40k for a lot longer admittedly but have gotten bits of Guardsmen, Eldar, Death Guard, Blood Angels, Necrons, Ad Mech, TSons, Custodes, Sisters. I don't know why I keep army hopping so hard in this game. I'm now even tempted to grab some GSC but I know I'll be bored of them within a week.
Now I have a house full of wasting plastic never to be painted or really played with and it's starting to get a little stressful.

Anyone got any advice? It's been like this since I was quite young and now I'm in my mid 20's and STILL can't just stop and finish an army, even just a small one haha.

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: hopefully this doesn't sound like a troll thread. The stress is from how much money I feel like I've wasted so far and I'm looking for advice on how to stick with an army for longer than 10 seconds before getting bored. I keep getting this thing where, when I get bored of them, I look through the armies and think, "this one looks cool and has fun fluff, maybe this will be the army I stick with!" This just happens continuously and I've gotten a bit sick of it. Maybe 40k just isn't for me?

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Sounds familiar. I like collecting varies models, and I easily get bored if I have to paint similar models over and over and I want to get something different instead. Try to from your collection so that you can structure a (somewhat) coherent allied force out of them. Works for Imperial, Chaos and Eldar models pretty well. Factions other than that are more of an issue. Perhaps you could use them in the Killteam?

Also, don't buy a lot of models at once. Buy some, paint them, and only if you're not yet bored with the faction, buy more. Also, buy in batches that can reasonably fit in some detachment, so you can pluck them into your greater allied force with ease.

   
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Maybe try kill team rather than full on 40k? That way you only need to paint up a dozen models to have a functional army. In fact, by the sounds of it you've got the makings of 9 or 10 different kill teams already. You may well find that if you actually get to play some games with your models, it might motivate you to expand one of the forces into a full army. There's also no reason you can't combine say all your imperial stuff into one force if you want to play a larger game.
   
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pgmason wrote:
Maybe try kill team rather than full on 40k? That way you only need to paint up a dozen models to have a functional army. In fact, by the sounds of it you've got the makings of 9 or 10 different kill teams already. You may well find that if you actually get to play some games with your models, it might motivate you to expand one of the forces into a full army. There's also no reason you can't combine say all your imperial stuff into one force if you want to play a larger game.


That is a damn fine idea. Or Necromunda.

I know where you're coming from, OP. I do exactly the same with MMORPG characters, and get frustrated with myself for doing it but don't seem able to stop. Luckily with GW I've had a long and enduring love of Khorne-based chaos, or I'd have spent a damn fortune.
   
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It's no trolling, there are many lke you and its PERFECTLY NORMAL. Heck you should hear of some who have ROOMS full of unbuilt stuff!

I'm very much like you in that I can very easily get really into an army, the lore, the background the models. Buying is dead easy and I can fast end up just like you with a pile of boxes and I get started and then ooh wait there's that Necromunda that no wait Adepticus Titanicus..... etc..


So I very much sympathise and yes you can feel very guilty when there's a pile of boxes or half built sprues or unpainted models sitting there.



Personally I think there's a few things you can try and see what works for you:
1) Computer games. Hear me out on this one! Yeah they are not the same as tabletop; but I've found that games like Warhammer TW and Dawn of War Soulstorm and Battlfleet Gothic let me scratch that "Oh that army is fancy" itch for a while without requiring big investment. Sure I can't build and paint the models; but I can get in to the flavour of swarming with skaven or swooping down with hawks in a close combat charge whilst a fire prism blasts away etc.. Ergo it can help with that impulsive and lore/theme side of things without requiring big investment (esp since when you get down to it the building phase is often much of a muchness - its all mouldlines and filling gaps)

2) Organise your workspace. I find organising the workspace helps. A clear desk, no distractions and no half built stuff; then easy access to a set of models to work on. It lets you fit in working on stuff in short spans of time; puts things to order and I find helps you declutter visually and mentally. I find it helps focus and similarly a messy setup can be all cluttered and its demoralising to see all the empty boxes stacked up and halfbuilt stuff all around.
Stick the boxes in a box under the bed; put a metal shelfing rack in and put the bits in there and keep out only what you need. I find its helped me stay focused on what I'm working on and get distracted a bit less.

3) Work within practical and sensible self imposed limits. Some people go extreme "I won't buy another model until I finish." That works
Personally I find that doesn't work for me and just makes me stressy with things because I'm denying myself the pleasure of buying by imposing a random limit that isn't always healthy*.
My self imposed rule has thus been to aim for, within a one year period, to have less boxes unfinished than I started the year with. Even if its just by one box.
Simple rule but means I can buy, sell, build and mostly do what I want so long as I aim to improve my position within a year. Half a year is also another good measure you can use; or even a month or whatever you feel works.

4) A bit of strictness with yourself. I find that this does help. Reinforce yourself too - sometimes writing a blog, reading lore/fluff around the army etc.... can help too; but sometimes you've just got to be a tiny bit more adult and realise that you do stil really like that army; you will and CAN build and finish it and that the target is not actually that far off. A bit of self imposed boundaries and strictness can feel, in the short term, a pain; but can yield great long term bonuses

Writing out a diary; planning your free time "in this slot I will work on X" ;writing down and clearly putting sticky notes on your computer screen for what to work on next etc....

5) Be true with yourself. Sometimes you can really like an army, but when you get down to it you really might only like one or two models. Perhaps they can be allied into your current army; or perhaps you can just buy those models for the fun of building and painting and display and that's enough. You don't need the whole skaven army when you only really like the Doomwheel. etc...

6) Something ELSE. Sometimes you can get into a rut where you're jumping army to army seeking that easy build; easy paint; easy play or power play or whatever and you're not getting. So you jump army to army; game to game and its not working.
At that stage sometimes you've got to pause and realise that the issue isn't the models nor the game nor you; its that you've got bored. Or you've hit a challenge wall you can overcome; or you've changed a little and what was fun and great isn't as much any more for you.

There is no shame in putting your model to one side, boxing some of them up and starting a fresh new hobby. It can give you a new outlet, new focus, new skills and experiences and it will recharge your warhammer hobby batteries the whole time. Might be the new hobby takes you over and you never look back; might be you just need it for a few weeks and then you're back; might be a few years or however long. And in the real world chances are you'll likely do a bit of warhammer here and there along the way anyway.

But you'll lose that guilt that sticks because its your main hobby that you're not focusing on for a bit.





There's loads of approaches and what works depends on the person and often its not one but several things. But rest assured you're in a very normal position for many 40K and miniature wargame players

*Note this is said with respect to the view that one is not beggering ones self. Ergo that the only money involved is already disposable and hobby money. Therefore no models might mean increasing savings, buying books, eating out etc...

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Hey everyone thanks for the replies, and those points, Overread, are all great.
The idea to make a Kill Team out of all the factions is a good idea, I'll do that and work out while I do who I want to stick with for a bit as, if I get into the fluff, could see myself getting back into a few, namely Blood Angels, Eldar or Necrons. So I'll start there with Kill Teams.

Also a bit relieving to hear I'm not the only one who does this haha. It's sort of funny that I've never stuck with an army long enough to see even a 750pt army having been painted. I think the closest I've been is with Blood Angels as they're my favourite next to Eldar and Necrons.
Anyway, thanks for the reply guys and I'll take the advice onboard.
   
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If you're going to stick with full scale 40k, I think the first thing to identify is "why are you getting bored with them?" Is it the tedious painting, the playstyle of the army, the look of the army?

When you can identify that, it might help choose an army that you won't get bored with.

You say you've had the same fantasy army forever, is it the diversity of the models? Perhaps something like tyranids might be a good choice. Their also good if you get bored with the same color scheme over and over again because, being bugs, they can be any color and don't all have to be the same.

another thing that helps is to put them down for a while, then come back to them later.

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I find that nothing kills my motivation more than having too many unfinished models. If I don't pace my purchases with how much I can realistically paint, I end up with project paralyses looking at a bunch of grey plastic.

Kill Team is a great suggestion because you can quickly knock up a list, and then do something completely different. Even if you don't get into Kill Team it helps a lot to have something of a palate cleanser to keep you interested when you're bored of your main army, whether that's a second army or just some random models you think are cool.

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You aren't the only one. I have thousands in unpainted models.

There should be a support group for this.

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AA. Armies Anonymous.

Gak, I need this, I think like 90% of the community needs this lmao.

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It kind of makes me sad to think of all the poor minis out there languishing in greyness.

 
   
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 Tiberius501 wrote:
I have this really annoying and money wasting problem where I get into an army, buy a heap and then get bored of them, and then buy a new army to get bored of and so on. In AoS, I've stuck with the same force of Free People's allied with Stormcast for years. I've been playing 40k for a lot longer admittedly but have gotten bits of Guardsmen, Eldar, Death Guard, Blood Angels, Necrons, Ad Mech, TSons, Custodes, Sisters. I don't know why I keep army hopping so hard in this game. I'm now even tempted to grab some GSC but I know I'll be bored of them within a week.
Now I have a house full of wasting plastic never to be painted or really played with and it's starting to get a little stressful.

Anyone got any advice? It's been like this since I was quite young and now I'm in my mid 20's and STILL can't just stop and finish an army, even just a small one haha.

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: hopefully this doesn't sound like a troll thread. The stress is from how much money I feel like I've wasted so far and I'm looking for advice on how to stick with an army for longer than 10 seconds before getting bored. I keep getting this thing where, when I get bored of them, I look through the armies and think, "this one looks cool and has fun fluff, maybe this will be the army I stick with!" This just happens continuously and I've gotten a bit sick of it. Maybe 40k just isn't for me?


I have the exact same problem, in less than three years I've owned a 2K force for every single faction currently available in 40K except for Grey Knights and Sisters of battle. I've owned space marines three separate times.

So far only the Tau have been my go to army. I wish I had some advice to give, but I have more capital than sense some days. Best of luck to you!
   
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 Luciferian wrote:
I find that nothing kills my motivation more than having too many unfinished models. If I don't pace my purchases with how much I can realistically paint, I end up with project paralyses looking at a bunch of grey plastic.

Kill Team is a great suggestion because you can quickly knock up a list, and then do something completely different. Even if you don't get into Kill Team it helps a lot to have something of a palate cleanser to keep you interested when you're bored of your main army, whether that's a second army or just some random models you think are cool.



My spending spree has died down to near nill when I think about how many I have to paint. I just finished up 3 x 10 grey hunters so I'll put down the painting for a while and do some other stuff, then it's on to 2 x 10 skyclaws.

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That's a pretty decent chunk. It always feels good to get a large portion done.

I have a DE Kill Team to paint and a bunch of terrain to build, then the whole Blackstone Fortress box. I'm not going to buy anything until all of that is done. Probably...

 
   
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 Brutus_Apex wrote:
You aren't the only one. I have thousands in unpainted models.

There should be a support group for this.


I think we're posting in it.
   
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Remember you can return boxes still shrink wrapped - if you lose interest in a faction, you have only lost the investment in opened boxes.

Good luck knuckling down and completing your first army.
   
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 Tiberius501 wrote:
I have this really annoying and money wasting problem where I get into an army, buy a heap and then get bored of them, and then buy a new army to get bored of and so on. In AoS, I've stuck with the same force of Free People's allied with Stormcast for years. I've been playing 40k for a lot longer admittedly but have gotten bits of Guardsmen, Eldar, Death Guard, Blood Angels, Necrons, Ad Mech, TSons, Custodes, Sisters. I don't know why I keep army hopping so hard in this game. I'm now even tempted to grab some GSC but I know I'll be bored of them within a week.
Now I have a house full of wasting plastic never to be painted or really played with and it's starting to get a little stressful.

Anyone got any advice? It's been like this since I was quite young and now I'm in my mid 20's and STILL can't just stop and finish an army, even just a small one haha.

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: hopefully this doesn't sound like a troll thread. The stress is from how much money I feel like I've wasted so far and I'm looking for advice on how to stick with an army for longer than 10 seconds before getting bored. I keep getting this thing where, when I get bored of them, I look through the armies and think, "this one looks cool and has fun fluff, maybe this will be the army I stick with!" This just happens continuously and I've gotten a bit sick of it. Maybe 40k just isn't for me?


Oh yeah your problem sounds familiar.

1) What pts lv do you typicaly play games at?
2) What leads you to getting bored with a force?
3) DON'T try & stick with just one army.

For your Imperial stuff? Just pick the units you like best (for whatever reason) & soup them together. Don't worry about how effective this would be in a tourney, just "will it work OK where I actually play?". Likewise don't worry about CPs. Or the lack of. Just get a collection of stuff you LIKE on the table & work from there.
As you're playing this army, pick one of the forces you have. Build it up to the point where it'd be playable in whatever your standard game is. When you have that done? Put the Soup away & play this new force for abit. And once again, build up another. When it's ready? Rotate armies again. And repeat, and repeat, and repeat....
Eventually you'll get to the end of that list & the Soup is going to rotate in. At this point choose one of it's elements (say Guard) & get it built up. Then rotate the Soup out & play just the newly focused element & build up another Soup component.... Repeat as oft as neccecary.

Once each force is "finished"? Put the whole lot on a rotation. Pick one force & play it until you feel that old urge to switch trigger. Put it away & play another force. It'll work out that you'll find yourself playing some armies more & some less than others. That's how you tell wich are your main armies.
   
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I had the exact same issue and simply quit trying to collect full 40k armies. Now I just play specialist games like necromunda and titanicus. Titanicus is great cause there is kinda only one faction...sorta. But at least its such a contained game I can't go trying to switch it up cause there is only one line of models.

 
   
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I had same problem, until I bought display cases/book shelves for my spare room (filled all the walls with them). Then I had to fill them. Just trade one obsession for another. I couldn't have empty or half filled display shelves, I had to make my models. Once filled, they look crap not painted, I had to paint them all.

Granted I now have my garage filling up (but I am more selective) and my spare room has tens of thousands of points of multiple armies painted etc and on my display shelves. It also allowed me to see armies I don't play regularly and use them.

It stopped me buying for along time cause I knew had to fill them up and made me more selective in my buying.

If you box stuff away seems like you don't have anything (except your regular armies or if you don't have regular armies, it seems like you have nothing). If you display everything you make, to me, has made it seem more worth while and curbed my spending.

EDIT: I got some quality looking book shelves from IKEA to do the entire room, cost me only like $70 AU each so was like $700 or something total. But if on budget, buy one book shelf and your goal is to fill it, once full get another etc. Set goals for the models. If get sick of armies quick say fill one shelf marines, the next admech etc etc.

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"Guardsmen, Eldar, Death Guard, Blood Angels, Necrons, Ad Mech, TSons, Custodes, Sisters"

Okay, that's a decent spread of factions, but guard, BAs, Ad Mech, Custodes & Sisters are all Imperium. Sounds like you're an Imperium player! Have you thought about keeping the majority of these, plus one Chaos and one Xenos army, and selling the few remaining?

Selling off, for example, Ad Mech, DG & Necrons could help you focus on what you do have, and by the sounds of it, most of your stuff is gray plastic, which has a good resale value on Ebay. Then you have a little pot of money to actually get one of your armies over the finish line into 2+k of points. Which one you invest in and which you cut is your decision, and might be informed by what your friends in the area play, if you have a good group. If you don't, well, do you have a friend who's always been interested? Lending (or giving them, if they're a good friend) them one of your mini armies might be a great way to get them into the game, and trust me, having a friend who plays is way more rewarding and valuable that that 9th grey legion sitting in that box at the back of your garage! This would be my number one concern actually, come to think of it...

Death Guard would be an excellent starter army for someone - strong tanky units with lots of new releases and models swimming about, and a great nemesis for your own faction...

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 grouchoben wrote:
"Guardsmen, Eldar, Death Guard, Blood Angels, Necrons, Ad Mech, TSons, Custodes, Sisters"

Okay, that's a decent spread of factions, but guard, BAs, Ad Mech, Custodes & Sisters are all Imperium. Sounds like you're an Imperium player! Have you thought about keeping the majority of these, plus one Chaos and one Xenos army, and selling the few remaining?

Selling off, for example, Ad Mech, DG & Necrons could help you focus on what you do have, and by the sounds of it, most of your stuff is gray plastic, which has a good resale value on Ebay. Then you have a little pot of money to actually get one of your armies over the finish line into 2+k of points. Which one you invest in and which you cut is your decision, and might be informed by what your friends in the area play, if you have a good group. If you don't, well, do you have a friend who's always been interested? Lending (or giving them, if they're a good friend) them one of your mini armies might be a great way to get them into the game, and trust me, having a friend who plays is way more rewarding and valuable that that 9th grey legion sitting in that box at the back of your garage! This would be my number one concern actually, come to think of it...

Death Guard would be an excellent starter army for someone - strong tanky units with lots of new releases and models swimming about, and a great nemesis for your own faction...


Selling is an option. But say he/she sells his/her Crons and then a new Cron C'tan get released with new powers and awesome abilities and looks phenomenal. I would be kicking myself. Compound on the fact that having to package and sell things can be time consuming and stressful. Unless he/she needs the money I wouldn't recommend that.

Mid 20's as well you still young... Just buy a bookshelf and fill it, if you fill that fill another and another. If you actually paint some models and use them. I have found it curbs the desire for more, but enhances desire for that faction. If you start playing that faction a lot (and all you mates are like, we don't play unpainted crap, like me/mine) will enhance it more. Sounds like you need a regular gaming group as well or even go in for one of those leagues that build up every week that some gaming stores run.

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"If you actually paint some models and use them. I have found it curbs the desire for more, but enhances desire for that faction."

– Very true, agreed. Finances are important in this game, though, I will say. It is hella expensive and to use your own example, a shiny new C'tan - if you already own a nascent Necron force - could trigger a biggg binge spend. Whereas if you have no baby-necrons you're much safer; the example works both ways, depending on your priorities.
   
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 grouchoben wrote:
"If you actually paint some models and use them. I have found it curbs the desire for more, but enhances desire for that faction."

– Very true, agreed. Finances are important in this game, though, I will say. It is hella expensive and to use your own example, a shiny new C'tan - if you already own a nascent Necron force - could trigger a biggg binge spend. Whereas if you have no baby-necrons you're much safer; the example works both ways, depending on your priorities.


Either-way I always think why sell stuff that you bought? Every army I have sold over the many years, I now regret.

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I've been back in the hobby less than 18 months, and I reckon once these Christmas Battleforces I ordered get delivered on top of what I have yet to do I'll have enough models to see me through another 18 months or more. It won't stop me ordering more though.

It's stupid really, but it makes me happy, and I love having the choice of which models I want to assemble and paint whenever I feel like it.

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Spectral Ceramite wrote:
 grouchoben wrote:
"If you actually paint some models and use them. I have found it curbs the desire for more, but enhances desire for that faction."

– Very true, agreed. Finances are important in this game, though, I will say. It is hella expensive and to use your own example, a shiny new C'tan - if you already own a nascent Necron force - could trigger a biggg binge spend. Whereas if you have no baby-necrons you're much safer; the example works both ways, depending on your priorities.


Either-way I always think why sell stuff that you bought? Every army I have sold over the many years, I now regret.


I think it's a fascinating topic that touches on peoples attitude to money, to buying and selling, to collecting or disposing, attention span, boredom threshold and probably a whole bunch of other things too. I've very much got a collector mentality; once I've got my hands on something I like I won't willingly part with it, and that applies to miniatures, guitars, whatever. That combines with the fact that I can't be bothered with the whole selling process and the fact that I've not faced the financial necessity to sell things off that means I've never sold a mini. But clearly plenty of people do, judging by the amount of miniatures for sale on ebay and through trade forums, trade-ins and whatever else. If not for people selling their miniatures I'd never have been able to put together my collection of metal Craftworlds models (I'd have been stuck with finecast - the horror!) There must be at least as many people who are quite happy to sell things they no longer have an immediate use for, to get the money for the next thing.

I keep hold of things even to the extent that I've still got the old PC hardware from my last rig, just sitting in boxes on the shelf. One of my best mates sells off his old hardware whenever he upgrades, while I can't be bothered and instead come up with vague plans to build myself a home server or something which I never actually do. It's like I'm kidding myself as to why I don't need to go to the effort of selling this stuff that I no longer need and could make a bit of cash back on.

I also (like many of us) purchase models at a much faster rate than I can actually get through painting them, especially when there's a good deal on, a discount box set that might not be around for long (e.g. I bought Imperial Knights Renegade - and it's still all on the sprue, or the new Christmas Battleforces) or something good on ebay where you've got to buy it now or miss out. I've got enough of a backlog to keep me painting for at least a year, and I'm probably going to pre-order 3 Christmas Battleforces before today is out. And at least most of the sprues will be untouched for months or even longer. If something's on the shelf that I'm not using, would I consider selling it off? Like the Imperial Knights Renegade Box? Not really. Even though I could probably make my money back on it, I know it would cost me a lot more to re-buy the contents if I eventually got around to wanting Knights. So even though I don't have much inclination to build/paint those models at the moment, the box sits on my shelf until I get around to wanting to work on it. Am I in danger of buying new stuff at a rate that some stuff never gets worked on? Absolutely. I keep telling myself that I'm going to stop buying new stuff to give myself a chance to work through some of the backlog, but then new deals or discount boxes show up and the pile of shame grows.

However unlike OP I don't have *that* much of a jumping armies problem. The solution to that one probably depends on what you're getting bored of - if it's painting the same colours again and again then it might be worth focusing on an army where you can use varied colour schemes (like I'm working on Aspect Warrior heavy Eldar, with the Aspects in their traditional shrine colours), or if it's in playing then perhaps an army where there are multiple different ways of playing them that it would take longer to get bored with (infantry, mechanised, monsters, psychic, lords of war, hordes etc.). And of course, the option to embrace the soup for Imperial, Eldar and Chaos. It doesn't matter so much jumping between armies if, for example, they're all Imperial and you can use them together. You just need enough units for each faction to fill a detachment rather than a whole army.

   
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Spectral Ceramite wrote:
 grouchoben wrote:
"If you actually paint some models and use them. I have found it curbs the desire for more, but enhances desire for that faction."

– Very true, agreed. Finances are important in this game, though, I will say. It is hella expensive and to use your own example, a shiny new C'tan - if you already own a nascent Necron force - could trigger a biggg binge spend. Whereas if you have no baby-necrons you're much safer; the example works both ways, depending on your priorities.


Either-way I always think why sell stuff that you bought? Every army I have sold over the many years, I now regret.


True, but sometimes, esp if what you've got is still in boxes unbuilt, its not about selling off armies; but rather realising that you can't do them all as you want. So instead of trying to do 10 armies badly you sell off what you know you're not going to touch for years and instead focus on doing a few armies better.
I find it rather rewarding on a few counts:
1) IT clears your guilt/backlog because you are reducing boxes that you're not touching.
2) It gives you money to focus on the current army
3) The focus on fewer armies means you can build them with more variety, take more time over them and generally achieve a better result.

This latter part is where a lot of joy comes from, more so than unopened boxes of plastic.


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 Overread wrote:
Spectral Ceramite wrote:
 grouchoben wrote:
"If you actually paint some models and use them. I have found it curbs the desire for more, but enhances desire for that faction."

– Very true, agreed. Finances are important in this game, though, I will say. It is hella expensive and to use your own example, a shiny new C'tan - if you already own a nascent Necron force - could trigger a biggg binge spend. Whereas if you have no baby-necrons you're much safer; the example works both ways, depending on your priorities.


Either-way I always think why sell stuff that you bought? Every army I have sold over the many years, I now regret.


True, but sometimes, esp if what you've got is still in boxes unbuilt, its not about selling off armies; but rather realising that you can't do them all as you want. So instead of trying to do 10 armies badly you sell off what you know you're not going to touch for years and instead focus on doing a few armies better.
I find it rather rewarding on a few counts:
1) IT clears your guilt/backlog because you are reducing boxes that you're not touching.
2) It gives you money to focus on the current army
3) The focus on fewer armies means you can build them with more variety, take more time over them and generally achieve a better result.

This latter part is where a lot of joy comes from, more so than unopened boxes of plastic.



Perspective, you buy something for a reason, then to sell is extreme. Everything I have sold I have regretted. I think we have both made points about to sell or not and perspectives are known in multiple posts, so not gunna post again on the same issue, read above. (not that I don't want to counter argue, I can, but I think is redundant)

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Broadly speaking I do agree with you, its why I say if people grow bored with a hobby they should box it up for a while rather than sell it on. However as established above, with wargaming its very easy to buy too much all at once.

I know that I've got wood and high elf models that are still in the box and still wrapped up. Yes I like the models still, but they wil ltake time to be built and require a lot more investment to make into a full army. So I made a choice that yes I would still like such an army, but I know I won't have the time or resources to put into collecting, building, painting and playing with them alongside other armies that I'm already further along with.

So dump one set of stuff and focus on the other.

I do agree that if I came back to wanting WE or HE armies I would have to buy again and it would cost more more (even with just basic inflation of prices; let alone the fact that selling second hand means taking a loss). But in the end releasing that money and losing that guilt now frees me up today rather than investing too heavily in a future that might never come to pass.



If course in this I'm talking about stuff still unbuilt; it gets a bit different when its built and even more when its built and painted up. Functional built armies are better to store than to sell since if you get the itch to play them again; if they are just in storage you can unbox and play that very day; but if you sell them off then it would take weeks to months and a lot of money to rebuilt.

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I imagine most people feel the pull of multiple armies, and a lot of us have problems sticking with one project long enough to complete it (I say, surrounded by a full half circle of Orks in various stages of assembly).

For me, at least, I find that really sitting down and running through everything I want to do with that shiny new thing that caught my attention, from fully visualizing the conversions and paint options to crunching the numbers and setting up the efficiency spreadsheets, helps take the edge off the impulsive need to grab them now. That learning and planning aspect is a significant chunk of my enjoyment of something, it turns out, so by running through it in detail I can get a lot of the "fun" without completely filling up the game room with projects I'll absolutely never finish. I know it doesn't work that way for everyone, though.

KT also sounds like it might be a good outlet, as you can knock together a team to scratch the itch without fully committing to an army.

Army swaps might also be an option, as you could trade an army you no longer are interested in for whatever catches your fancy today. It keeps your storage from exploding with things you'll never get to, keeps the new toy acquisition endorphins flowing, and lightens the load on your budget. Think of it as sending them to a loving home where they'll get played.
   
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The big difficulty for me is picking an army that satisfies all of the following factors

1. Aesthetics
2. Fluff
3. Ease of painting and assembly
4. Tabletop effectiveness

Invariably any army list will hit two or three of these but be weak in one or two categories, and then I'll dwell on that issue until I decide to go with another faction that better achieves that end, and repeat the cycle.

8th makes it difficult because hordes are strong, and how do you make a list that has over a hundred bodies but is also quick to paint and assemble?

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