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Also ripped off asimov's foundation, The Alien movies, the terminator movies, the hellraiser movies....
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A prison style environment produces people who fight to keep themselves alive. Good soldiers fight to keep their countey alive.

That's probably why Israel as the words best, if far from biggest, military.
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http://asimov.wikia.com/wiki/Scientism


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 ingtaer wrote:
 Techpriestsupport wrote:
A prison style environment produces people who fight to keep themselves alive. Good soldiers fight to keep their countey alive.

That's probably why Israel as the words best, if far from biggest, military.



A prison style enviroment would teach you how to survive in a prison style enviroment, not a lot of those skills would necessarily transfer to a high tech military enviroment and its a hell of a push to claim Israel as the worlds 'best' military.




I am comfortable with my assertion.

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The idea of a "god emperor" didn't start with dune. For centuries the Japanese believed their emperor was literally descended from god. He was likey the first God emperor.

The romans routinely deified emperor's after they died. Caligula tried to jump the gun and declare himself a living God. His non necron praetorians quickly demonstrated his mortality to him.
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 OIIIIIIO wrote:
So..... does that mean that Duncan Idaho was the original and Saint Celestine is the copy?

There are some differences betwixt the universes. As far as I can recall cloning happens in 40k but certainly not very much. In Dune there is an entire group of people that specifically do cloning for various different reasons. The Tleilaxu are genetic manipulators and gene growers that would make Fabius Bile look like he was putting square pegs in round holes.

The Fremen, oddly enough, were originally non-combatants, and refused to fight. Generations later their society changed internally and after learning how to close quarter combat with the best of them, they were then taught the Weirding Way of fighting. They could literally alter reality around themselves and appear to teleport. Eldar Warp Spiders wish they were that good.

There are so many more things that I could go on about beings as I read much about 40k, all of the Dune series that both Frank and his kid wrote based off of Franks notes. I see more differences than I do similarities.


Not to disagree with you just to disagree, but if the rumors about the death korps of krieg are true there's actually a hell of a lot of cloning going on in the imperium, it's just kept very secret and done in a "mass production" basis...
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Dune is a popular target for ripoffs in SF. The old RPG "spacemaster" was an in your face ripoff of dune. Trust me.

BTW spacemaster was a pretty decent dog actually, I kinda miss it.
 
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